If I were Dutch, I’d be proud. Yeah, I wouldn’t be here if they weren’t proud. Do you think Dutch people are proud of being Dutch? Oh, very much. They couldn’t be more proud. I think so yeah. Of course. Of course! Yes. Definitely… You can feel the spirit of nationalism. You just sense it. Yeah, they’re super proud of being Dutch. They can sing about that for the whole day if you let them… Especially if there is a beer involved! They are very proud, but I would be also very proud. Trots Trots! Trots Trots? That’s Dutch, right? Pride Pride, yeah. They are proud about their history. They celebrate the National days. It’s easy to see during King’s day, for example. So many people go to the street… OK, to a party… but because it’s the birthday of the king. Once a year when it’s King’s day, when it’s Koningsdag, there’s flags everywhere. Oh Jesus… the flags are everywhere! The little Dutch flag everywhere, on the houses. Whenever you celebrate something, you hang out the flag to celebrate. You go to the next level for education, so we always put the flag there with the bag. Everybody has orange. How about even the orange thing? Oh yeah, the orange thing! There’s a lot of pride behind that. I have the socks to prove it. ‘Ik ben een held’ (=I’m a hero) They’re humble individually, but their sense… …as a country…. Their national pride is really there. Especially at sporting events, Dutch fans are world famous for cheering on for all of their sports. In football matches when I watch and the orange all comes out or during the Olympics, I see a lot of pride. Speed skating. If the Dutch are skating, there will be Dutch fans dressed head-to-toe in orange, and there will be tubas and instruments, and they’re having a party, supporting their team. They’re very patriotic when it comes to their history with building dikes, building dams to hold back the North Sea. The famous dike, somewhere near Rotterdam; the water management system in the Netherlands has been accepted all over the world. An example of that is when New Orleans suffered Hurricane Katrina, the first thing the Louisiana government did was reach out to a Dutch expert to come and help them figure out how they can prevent that from happening again. I think they should definitely be proud of what they’ve achieved in terms of their inventions, how they’ve regained so much land from flooded areas. The Dutch are one of the most creative people in the world. The history speaks for itself. I mean the commitment to sustainability. Economic level. The economic level. It is a very rich country. In terms of the personality of characteristics of Dutch, everybody knows that Dutch are like… stingy and also the Dutch are quite proud of it. In different circumstances, they have self-mockery about that part. Even the way they use when you confront someone about being too direct, they say, I’m Dutch… almost proud of it. They are very open minded and everyone has an equal position and everyone is friendly. Everybody is reasonable and sensible. They have a pretty good society. The young kids have the same polite manners as the adults, as the middle aged, and the middle aged just as the adults. It’s all the way through, whereas in the US, it’s the exact opposite. The kids are a little rebellious. They feel that they’re better than their parents, and the parents feel they’re better than their grandparents, and so there’s like a competition but the Dutch seem to just fall in line. People try to celebrate their lives quite a lot as well. They are proud and they should be. It’s also a form of pride… like what sort of things you are doing that you feel comfortable doing. The way you make life worthwhile. Good quality of life. Yeah, it’s a reason to be proud, and you have the best beer! Of course, they do complain about the country and the bureaucracy and the government sometimes. They love their country, but they are spoiled, and sometimes they complain and complain, complain about the weather, the politicians, things that are not working… but perfectly work, but they think, oh, no, it’s one minute late … all the time, but if you foreigners say something, whoa. It’s a bit like families, where families argue and squabble amongst themselves, but if you then attack that family, then they’re united, and I think the Dutch are a bit similar. If a foreigner comes and complains about the country, then you’re going to hear an earful. I would say Dutch people are proud of their heritage, their culture, but they’re not hyperbolic about it. One of the things that I really liked about Dutch people and the Netherlands is they recognize that they’re a small country. Dutch people seem to achieve a lot for such a small place on the kind of world stage. It seems that Dutch people seem proud of that. We absolutely see pride in the country. What we don’t see is strident nationalism. When it’s a national holiday, when a child is graduating from high school and they hang their backpack out the window. There is pride in the country but you don’t always have to scream about it to be proud about it. I really, really appreciate that difference. They’re proud of their heritage but they don’t take it to the point that they think they are the best people in the world or aren’t so aggressive with that pride as in some countries. They have so much pride when you try to speak Dutch and then they have the pleasure to correct you. Oh yes. They are very proud. Well, sometimes I wish they were a little bit more because quite often, for instance, they too readily want to speak English with you and not sort of take pride in their own language and expect people to be speaking Dutch. Sometimes, I think: they should be a bit more Dutch and not so international. They’re very open to people from other countries, so I think they are proud of being Dutch. Yeah, it’s a great country and also a great nation.