Are Hong Kong & Macau Countries?

Are Hong Kong & Macau Countries?


# China, Hong Kong & Macau, Oh My! Welcome to Hong Kong: the island city of China
packed with seven million people at unbelievable density. But if you, dear tourist, start from
Victoria Harbor and head toward the mainland you’ll find that while Hong Kong is China
she doesn’t act like it. To cross the bridge your passport must be
checked and stamped and checked and stamped. Not because you’re a suspicious foreigner:
Mainland Chinese can’t just stroll across either, but rather because Hong Kong has her
own immigration policy. And Hong Kong isn’t the only isolated island,
there’s nearby Macau with her own passport-checking bridge and a ferry between them — which also
checks passports. Travel from Hong Kong to Macau to the mainland and back and you’ll
end up with three stamps, and that goes for everyone: Hong Kongese can’t just live in
Macau and Macanese can’t just live in Hong Kong and they both can just live on the mainland. Yet it’s all China. And inconvenient travel
isn’t the only speciality of these sister islands. They also have: * Separate governments and political parties.
* Separate police. * Separate money.
* Postal systems. * Schools.
* and languages. Hong Kong even has her own Olympic team which
competed in the 2008 *Beijing* olympics which doesn’t make any kind of sense. The only things these sister islands don’t
have that other countries do: 1) Their own armies. Though that isn’t unique with modern countries,
and… 2) Formal diplomatic relations. Though even this unclear as both are members
of international trade organizations. And other countries have ’embassies’ in Hong Kong
and Macau, sure China won’t let them be called embassies, those are only for **mighty Beijing**
— they’re called *consulates* even if they’re bigger than Beijing’s embassy. All this makes Hong Kong and Macau, as mentioned
in a previous video, the most country-like countries that aren’t countries. So why are they China? China says so. It’s called ‘One China, Two Systems’ — though
fast-counters in the audience will see it should be called ‘One China, *Three* Systems.
Also there’s China’s special economic zones (where capitalism runs free) making it more
like ‘One China *Four* Systems’ — and if China got her way it might be ‘One China,
*Five* Systems’. But we can’t talk about everything so back
to China, Hong Kong, and Macau (oh my!) China ended up having these two essentialy
city-states, as always, because Empire. Portugal showed up in Asia in the 1500s and
didn’t exactly make friends. China and Portugal skirmished until Portugal used Bigger-pile-of-money
diplomacy to bribe a local Chinese official into turning over the islands of Macau as
a trading port. Later, Britannia found China and discovered
she had many of lovely things like silks and porcelain and precious, precious tea that
Britannia craved. In return China wanted from Britannia… to be left alone and Britannia
nobly agreed to respect China’s independence and soverenty. OOPS! OPIUM WARS! Nothing generates demand like addiction — which
Britannia was happy to supply. And, her bigger-gun diplomacy secured Hong Kong as a base through
which the drugs must flow. Later in a world where telegraphs and lightbulbs
were newfangled a lease gave control of Hong Kong to Britannia for 99 years or quote “as
good as forever”, kicking the transfer problem down the generations to be delt with by the
unimaginably futuristic society of the 1990s. Thus these sister cities grow up under the
influence of their Emperiffic parents. Hong Kong had English common law and lived in Britannia’s
org chart as one of her many crown colonies and Macau had Portuguese civil law. And the parental effect is still seen today:
visit Hong Kong and she is clearly Britannia’s daughter what with her love of business and
international finance (and lasers!) and english-accented language and near-identical transport system. Macau had a more troubled adolescence, as
her bigger sister stole the spotlight with her trading skills. But Macau eventually grew
up to be the gambling capital of the world. She’s Las Vegas x10 with a mixture of Portugal
and China. But Empires come and empires go, and the 90s
eventually arrived, meaning Britannia’s lease expired. Portugal claimed the treaty gave
her control of Macau *forever* but China disagreed and the UN was in a no-empires-no-longer mood,
and frankly had Portugal complained too much, China could have used her own bigger-army
diplomacy at this point to resolve the situation. So the transfer was going to happen: but the
world was nervous about China, what with the *lingering communism* and all, so the deal
was the Empire’s daughters would go *but* they had to remain basically independent,
to which China agreed as long as everyone else agreed to call them China. The situation was a bit like if the US had
to give Alaska back to Russia and Russia *super* promised to leave Alaska self-governing. You
couldn’t blame the locals for being nervous. But, unlike what you’d expect in this case
China has mostly left the little sister islands alone. So everything is dandy… *however*… The handover came with its own version of
the as-good-as-forever clause. China didn’t agree to leave Hong Kong and Macau alone *for
all time*, only fifty years, again passing political problems to a future generation.
(Hopefully one that’s actually unimaginably futuristic this time). Anyway, assuming such provincial concerns
as these are not rendered irrelevant by the singularity, what happens in the 2040s? Will
Hong Kong and Macau remain tiny city-states or will they lose their independence and be
absorbed? Only China knows, and China does not say.

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    Otaku Prdoductions

    China: Yeah sure, we'll leave them alone for 50 years.

    about 30 years later

    China: So Hong Kong… About your immigrants…

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    Alexandre Carolingian

    Hong Kong is not a country .I am Chinese.I live in mainland China for 20 years,maybe you have opinion of ccp.but China is not this party. Don't try to split our country.remember one China.

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    Falun Gong BS Cult

    British forces China in Nanking to sign a treaty to taken Hong Kong and there were two
    Opium wars. 1997 It Hong Kong returned to China because it was part of China so what they have it's money Europe all have it's stamp of money own Governments. Own flag it doesn't mean I'd not part of that country America in Canada every States have it's own flags like. Canadians have it's own province flags.

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    Falun Gong BS Cult

    When China wasn't Communist before the British and Communism it was part of China when China was Communist in 1949 suddenly it's not part of China, 2019 Hong Kong Chinese claimed Hong Kong is not China? Ignorant and uneducated fools.

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    H.H. Teo

    Depends on who you ask. Similarly, ask the following questions. Is Hawaii a country? Is Catalonia a country? Is Scotland a country? Is

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    Professor Xavier

    Singapore not a country just one district in Johor State 🤔 I think .. my history teacher –

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    Carel Sánchez

    0:14 You used the wrong passport…
    This is the Gibraltar Passport, which is used to go from Gibraltar to Spain, but not China from HK

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    Eddie Crane King

    It's a stupid question. Portuguese and British transferred the sovereignty of both places back to China in 1999 and 1997. So they are SAR regions of China, not countries.

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    JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE

    SO ASK KOREA; JAPAN; CHINA , HONG KONG, AND TAIWANESE, THEMSELVES, AS TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE REGIONS? ARE THEY MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT VARIOUS CULTURES EXIST IN THE MASSIVE MELTING POT THAT IS FAR EAST, NOT JUST CHINA… HASN'T THIS ALLUS BEEN THE CASE? I THINK THE VARIOUS FACTIONS WOULD EASILY LIVE SIDE BY SIDE WITHIN AN IMPERIAL CHINESE SETTING JUST AS THEY SEEMINGLY DO UNDER THE UMBRELLA ORGANISATION THAT IS: COMMUNIST CHINA. IT'D BE EXHAUSTNG TO RESEARCH ALL THIS LET ALONE ATTEMPT TO BARGAIN ON THE PROS AND CONS OF FREEDOM AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS IN THIS REGION…

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    Scott21

    People travel between Mainland China,HK and Macau don't need to show their passport,but their premit from Public Security Bureau (like police) for Mainland China,Travel service in HK and Macau(also Taiwan).People who has their premit in HK,Macau,Taiwan can stay in Mainland China for long time,but Mainland Chinese only 7 days when he or she goes on the trip

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    denzoned

    "The existence of a nation (you will pardon me this metaphor) is a daily referendum, just as the continuing existence of an individual is a perpetual affirmation of life."

    This leads Renan to the conclusion that "A nation never has a veritable interest in annexing or keeping another region against the wishes of its people". In other words, areas such as states or provinces which wish to secede, should be permitted to do so. "If doubts arise about national borders, consult the population of the area in dispute. They have the right to an opinion on the issue."

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    J

    In the end, Hong Kong was taken by force, and real honorable people will remember which country they belong to regardless of whether they like the administration or not. What Hong Kong is doing is that “we love our colony back”, this is not respectable, UK was exposed to be unwilling to take Hong Kongers as citizens back in 1995, is being secondary citizens really that good?

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    Unofficial Hong Kong Ball

    *one country two systems
    *Macau speaks Cantonese
    *We don’t need passport to travel between the three places
    *being anschluss by china

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    HO LAM YIU

    3:55
    "But unlike what you'd expect in this case, China has mostly left the sister islands alone."
    As a HKer I can tell you, China is indirectly trying to grip HK ever more firmly in its grasp. China isn't playing by the rules, and the rules itself agreed to to boot.

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    KiousHK

    Who those two dolls represent Hong Kong and Macau would be happy after returned china ? Impossible ! you put the wrong feelings of their face !

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    Oscar Wind

    The Qing made a Treaty
    The communists came to power
    The British have to give the island back.
    Sounds like a Unlawful seizure of territory to me.

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    Alan Sheng

    Although u speaks like a AI machine, I want to say you haven’t do basic research. Cantonese means Guangdong province in China and it is a dialect.

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    Barnali Das Gupta

    China I’m gonna take hon

    Rioters NOPE!

    China well its not that ba

    rioter YES IT IS!

    China well umm

    rioters WE WANT TO BE INDEPE

    China nope!

    rioters YES

    Yes no yes no yes no yes no

    Un screw this im out!

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