Birthright Citizenship Expert: This is Not a Diversion, Trump Has Pushed Radical Plan For Years

Birthright Citizenship Expert: This is Not a Diversion, Trump Has Pushed Radical Plan For Years

Let’s go to Vice President Mike Pence speaking
to Politico on Tuesday. What I think the president has made clear
is that we are looking at action that would reconsider birthright citizenship. We all know what the 14th Amendment says. We all cherish the language of the 14th Amendment. But the Supreme Court of the United States
has never ruled on whether or not the language of the 14th Amendment—”subject to the
jurisdiction thereof”—applies specifically to people who are in the country illegally. That’s the vice president of the United
States. Professor Jones, can you respond to what he’s
saying? I can, I think with a word of caution, Amy. Vice President Pence is, I think, attempting
to distinguish the facts in our present day of a family of unauthorized immigrants who
give birth to a child in the United States with the case of Wong Kim Ark, in which Wong
Kim Ark’s parents, while not eligible for citizenship, were what we would call authorized
or legal immigrants, legal residents in the United States. And I do think this is where the question
may turn for us, going forward. Certainly, it appears that the president is
prepared to split hairs in this way. Perhaps the Senate is willing to do so, as
well. Ultimately, the meaning of this not-very-often-visited
provision of the 14th Amendment will be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. But there have been cases subsequently in
which the court ruled as to whether the children of undocumented or unauthorized citizens had
rights to equal protection or education or other issues, as well, hasn’t there been? Of course. And you are right to point to a long, more
than century-long, clear law practice, custom, that has regarded the children of unauthorized
immigrants as citizens of the United States. And I would say this is important for everything,
from the securing of a passport and travel to the receipt of public benefits. And so, you’re absolutely right that to
pose this question in 2018 is to go against more than a century of our understanding of
the 14th Amendment, its purpose and its function for Americans. And what is your assessment right now? I mean, the midterm elections are a few days
away. You have these horrific white supremacist,
racist, anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic attacks that have all taken place within a week, from
the letter bomber to the attacks on African Americans in Kentucky to the 11 Jewish worshipers
who were gunned down in Pittsburgh. President Trump wants to pivot away from this—the
alleged shooters, the attackers quoting President Trump—so he throws this out. Many say this will not stand after the election;
he is just revving it up to go along with “invaders” from the south, as he puts
it. But there are others who are deeply concerned
that he is signaling now what he will do after the midterms. You have Lindsey Graham saying he’ll introduce
a bill. Your thoughts, as a historian of U.S. history,
where this goes, Professor Jones? Absolutely. I’m a student, if you will, of birthright
citizenship, and so I have followed the president’s rhetoric, the chatter, if you will, of his
base, but I have also followed the work of some of our—scholars from some of our most
eminent institutions of higher learning, who, for a very long time, have been critics of
and aiming for the 14th Amendment and its birthright provision. Certainly, there is something seemingly opportunistic
in President Trump’s announcement or revelation—right?—of his intent in this particular week. But I want to remind your viewers that this
rhetoric extends back to at least 2015, when candidate Trump made clear his intention of
challenging, troubling, undoing, curtailing the effect of the 14th Amendment’s birthright
provision. I don’t think this is a casual or off-the-cuff
or improvisational gesture by the president. This has been on his agenda for many years,
and now we are seeing it begin to get traction. I mean, it’s very interesting. He said he consulted his lawyers. His White House lawyer, McGahn, has left. The new one has not even come in yet. It’s a real question who exactly he has
consulted. Martha Jones, the author of the new book Birthright
Citizens: A History of Race and Rights in Antebellum America. It is just out. She’s the Society of Black Alumni presidential
professor and professor of history at Johns Hopkins University. She’s also the co-president of the Berkshire
Conference of Women Historians. When we come back, we head south to Brazil. What does the election of the far-right Army
captain Bolsonaro, who praises the military dictatorship, mean for Brazil, for Latin America,
for the United States and the world? Stay for us. [break] Protesters singing in the streets of Pittsburgh
during President Trump’s visit at the Tree of Life synagogue. It’s believed all local elected officials
boycotted his visit yesterday. Thousands protested in the streets.


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    A W

    I am so glad Trump is showing his true self in such a large boisterous way right before the Primaries vs. after.

    I’m hoping this gets people out to vote for DEMOCRATS and slam the breaks on Trumps Agenda.

    Impeach him! Or Lock him Up both sound promising.

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    Multidimensional Freedom Spirits Holt

    Trump destroyed so much and plans to destroy everything in our democracy to have his fascist agenda he has to be stopped.

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    Helvete Ulver

    I'm all for taking away citizenship,America needs to stop taking in more people,trying to take care of everyone's needs who are non u.s. citizens,taking care of your own people should be a priority before taking care of foreigners.

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    Remember when they used to tell blacks to "Go Back to Africa "? Now they're literally trying to change the law to make sure that happens. This is really serious!

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    Ria Davis

    Holy 🐄…where will that end if my grandmother was an immigrant to say my mothers citizenship status would be stripped as well as mine and my children grandchildren great grandchildren as well as all immigrant families who came here had children like 45????? This is crazy and no joke seriously a racist move on our constitutional rights.

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    Omemeemom mom

    So such children will be born without a nationality or country? Certainly a way to create a new class of people to be taken advantage of

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    Jane Croll

    Mike Pence brought a “Christian Rabbi”, to pray after 11 innocence Jewish lives that were lost. A Christian Rabbi. I don’t believe you can be a Rabbi if you don’t believe in the Jewish Faith

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    About time. Jus soli has never made sense. It's about time the US joins us europeans with common sense citizenship laws.

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    jim dandy

    Trump is 100% correct.illegal immigrants are riding off.the 14th amendment.which was meant for freed Africa slaves and there offsprings

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    Tex Hunter

    All that Trump has to do is deport all pregnant women unless they can prove citizenship. It would also be necessary to deny visas to women unless they can prove citizenship. Niether action would require amending the Constitution.

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    Kiko Figueroa

    Bible says the Lord will have to come and save us cuz you would kill so many of us.
    And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
    Matthew 24: 22
    Esau is the devil the Bible speaks called white folks you don't have to worry about this comment.
    You are not the children of the most high

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    Jon R H

    Someone, explain, how the heck can you accept this dictatorship? He's a mad man! And there must be some rules protecting USA from this kind of presidents?

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    Leo Lion

    You know it is a hardship thing that should apply case by case so to prevent an invasion of illegal immigration from any country not just Hispanics. Those poor people are just trying to get their families to a safer place. They are ruled by drug lords and government thugs they really don't have much of a choice. And the Jewish being shot is no different than anyone else being shot. Its bad no matter who it is, but they don't deserve special treatment above anyone else who is a victim.

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    Joseph Barros

    Trump is right
    New Zealand did it not long ago
    Australia too
    Chinese were immigrating to these countries to gain citizenship using their children
    Trump is doing it right

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    Celtic Rain

    The 14th says the child is a citizen from which the mother is from. Democrats twisting the truth again. Trump wins again. sorry, 'anchor babies' never were legal,…NEVER

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    Doug Wallis

    Our govt social safety net is insolvent, Our borders are closing. We are not going to let these people in this country.

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    Indeed, birthright citizenship has never been explicitly granted by the 14th amendment.. This executive order will go to the Supreme Court and will be decided there. He is not dismantling the Constitution. It makes sense to stop illegal aliens from playing the anchor baby card. To call that racist is complete bs. No crisis here, it just makes sense.

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    for years real American citizen put front this question – why are the children who are born to illegal aliens Parent sponsoring them into the country

    Real American Parents hand down citizenship to the child – this backward illegal act is rewarding the parent for illegally coming to our nation – get nationalized first

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    very clear — the parent is the active citizen of their government who came here illegal – without permission to have a baby into our country- the next line state subject to America government – why would we write laws for the illegal aliens 160 years later

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    Kevo A

    Birth right citizenship is wrong and needs to be fix .how can we allow people to come to America have children and become citizens we need new laws for this time anyone that wants to become citizens should be above average people,people that will help make America great and keep it great liberals are opposed of this because they will lose votes it shows how weak the demoncratic party is amd how weak liberalism really is .im for this law to happened too many people come to America to milk the system and thats injustice.

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    George Palmas

    It is,simple families illegals, unlawfully here babies can't be usa citizen .so simple . Babies can only get their parents citizenship. I go to China my wife gives,a, birth in China I don't want my baby has Chinese birth certificate or citizenship so simple .Babies can only must take families citizenship . They have been abusing this law for a long time

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    Try to impeaxh the Trump inherit the Pence…Pence pardons the Trump and becomes the VEEP…winner winner chickenhole dinner!

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    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. (Section 1 of the 14th amendment to the Constitution)

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    Damzee kingju

    Donald Trump is right to end constitution birthright citizenship because many countries to travel to the United States with pregnant to cheat childbirth to automatically to become US citizens

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    domingo Ramirez

    Trump is the President not you……again if you read the constitution, and subject to the Jurisdiction thereof……this is for the Black people before 160 yrs ago no wonder lots of Asian rich people come and give birth in California.

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    Harris Golden

    Please stop blaming Trump for the Jews killed in temple.. Sadly, Democracy Now is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and may not even know it. For proof, just click on @t. Try to find one article condemning the Palestinians or one article praising Israel.  Without a balanced approach, Democracy Now can, inadvertently, be killing more Jews and Palestinians while bringing the two parties further from peace. There’s two sides to the horrific Palestinian–Israeli issue. It sucks for both parties, and it takes creativity, tolerance, and understanding to make peace – not condemnation of just Israel. Amy Goodman, as a Jew, you should know better.

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    Timothy Branthoover

    You dems are idiots. As it been noted to were the only one who owned slaves at the start of the civil war, started the KKK, one of your own killed Lincoln, that Martin Luther King was a Republican… That you keep as many blacks as slave under the welfare state. You are suppose to represent truth – you are just like msm spreading hatred. I once supported public broadcasting wholeheartedly but you spread lies and hate. Bet you've never had the balls to watch "Hillary's America". Base all on fact. You want socialism, moved to Venezuela. This is a republic, not a democracy. A democracy is where the majority rules over the minority, a republic represent the individual. All you do is spread shit and you ignore the facts – lowest black, hispanic, and white unemployment is history. You need to see how many of your own have #walkaway and Blexit . You have nothing to impeach him for. You are the ones that spread hatred, racism and violence. You need to wake up.

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    waste basket

    The 14th Amendment, birthright citizenship, was NEVER intended for the children of illegal foreigners. The 14th amendment was only intended to benefit Black Americans. Democrats want to hand birthright citizenship to illegals, giving a big middle finger to American history and the history of black Americans. End birthright citizenship for illegals and revoke the citizenship of all those born to illegal parents!

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    Good News, Asia Bibi has been freed in Pakistan!!! Although she has spent 8 years in prison and her life is destroyed. What was her crime?
    She is a Christian and she drank from a water container while working on a farm. The Muslims attacked her saying because she is Christian she has defiled the water!!. Asia defended herself and the Muslim mob demanded she be arrested for blasphemy!! Pakistani officials arrested here she she spent 8 years in prison and almost got executed!!! She has been in jail but how many people know her name? How many western privileged feminists have spoken up for her over the last 8 years? Almost NONE

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    Trump may have every intent of implementing this, but I still think this is a diversion.

    That does not mean ignore it! It means you should accuse them loudly of trying to divert the midterms from sensible issues, such as the massive republican tax cut for the rich, the exploding deficit it caused, and now the republicans talk of "entitlement reform", ie slashing social security and medicare.

    Do NOT let republicans turn the midterms into a referendum over birthright citizenship with all those blatant, economy breaking, middle class destroying, actions they have done and don't want to talk about.

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    88Gibson LesPaul

    Any mention of Mike Pence evokes George Will's appraisal of him: "The oleaginous Mike Pence, with his talent for toadyism and appetite for obsequiousness, could, Trump knew, become America’s most repulsive public figure. And Pence, who has reached this pinnacle by dethroning his benefactor, is augmenting the public stock of useful knowledge. Because his is the authentic voice of today’s lickspittle Republican Party, he clarifies this year’s elections: Vote Republican to ratify groveling as governing."
    There is a certain kind of self-righteous, messiah mongering, Evangelical. Mike Pence is the ultimate symbol and embodiment of such people. They are absolutely certain that, in lieu of the Second Coming of Christ, they can be the stand-in until Jesus gets back.

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    Gary Elliot

    Kavanaugh's ready in the wings with the pre determined SCOTUS
    swing vote. This exercise is pre meditated….with malice aforethought.

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    Trump and his created news cycle is hard to keep up with. Where is the coverage from Hurricane in FL and the Carolinas?

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    Bran Kind

    F Liberals below and this channel. There are more LEGAL Mexicans who don't want this crap than there are illegals cranking out Anchor Babies

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    Joseph Nordenbrock

    Trump is ugly this way and that way. He's repulsive on purpose and yet I must continue to watch the baby running around with loaded nuclear weapons of mass destruction. It's like waiting for the biggest hail stone to smash the windshield during a raging storm. What will he do next to be the most shocking bad boy on the planet by dinner time ? I can feel safer walking down the street by myself than the POTUS who needed to cheat (with his children's help) to get the job.

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    Analog Human

    Illegal Aliens are not allowed to carry guns around, vote or drive because that are not under the jurisdiction of the federal government. The 14th Amendment was written to deal with the democrats hatred of blacks.

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    Analogous to Tower 7 : EPSTEIN 2020

    Congressional Record , June 13, 1967, pp. 15641-15646). A "citizen of the United States" is a civilly dead entity operating as a co-trustee and co-beneficiary of the PCT, the private constructive, cestui que trust of US Inc. under the 14th Amendment, which upholds the debt of the USA and US Inc. in Section 4. “…it is evident that they [US citizens] have not the political'[ rights]' which are vested in citizens of the States. They are not constituents of any community in which is vested any sovereign power of government. Their position partakes more of the character of subjects than of citizens. They are subject to the laws of the United States, but have no voice in its management. If they are allowed to make laws, the validity of these laws is derived from the sanction of a Government in which they are not represented. Mere citizenship they may have, but the political '[rights]' of citizens they cannot enjoy…” People v. De La Guerra,40 Cal. 311, 342 (A.D. 1870)

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    Rhonda Sisson

    I am beginning to wonder if all these Christians are Christian Jesus Christ is not the head of the household with Republicans

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    Mike Garcia

    It's a loophole that needs to be closed! People shouldn't just be allowed/encouraged to sneak into America, or come over on a work visa, have a child, and have that child automatically granted full American citizenship! What's so hard to understand about wanting to change/fix that, to where they can't do that to us anymore? They go to a hospital to have their baby, then never pay for it, and American tax payers have to foot the bill!

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    Ricky Sides

    The doctrine of "birthright citizenship" is no where to be found in the Constitution. The 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments (Civil War Amendments) were promulgated to protect the newly freed slaves and to emphasize that they are in fact CITIZENS of the United States and privy to the same natural and constitutional rights as any other citizen. It's no coincidence that the citizenship clause is within the 14th amendment that also includes the Equal Protection Clause. Prior to the amendment, if one was a citizen of a state, there were also a citizen of the US. The states decided to nationalize the issue, because they feared that some states would not recognize the newly freed slaves as citizens.

    Here is the wording of the clause: "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States" (emphasis mine).

    It's as if the Court and politicians can elide completely any mention of jurisdiction, as if it were to say "all persons born or naturalized in the United States… are citizens of the United States," with one glaring problem: it doesn't.

    The author of the clause–Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan–made clear in the halls of Congress its intent. He explains the part about jurisdiction was meant to exclude "persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to families of ambassadors or foreign ministers," and that "jurisdiction" meant "full and complete jurisdiction."

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    exhippie503 ommp

    Nationalist peoplez rallies white Republican party of fear and
    loathing believe completely >only those who agree get a vote. absolute

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    robert holmes

    45 All these curses will come on you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the LORD your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you. 46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever.47 Because you did not serve the LORD your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity,48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the LORD sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.
    49 The LORD will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined.52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the LORD your God is giving you.
    53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving
    49 The LORD will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined.52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the LORD your God is giving you.
    53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities.
    58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the LORD your God— 59 the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The LORD will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the LORD your God.63 Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will pleasehim to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.
    64 Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other.There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the LORD will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

    For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
    2 Timothy 3:2-4 

    "Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward" (Isaiah 1:4).

    . "Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them" (Ezekiel 22:26).

    "If My people, which are called by My Name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from Heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land" (2Chronicles 7:14)

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    Ms. Love

    No one is an American but those of copper hue. All others like europeans,Mexicans are imposters living off our virtues. 14th,15th is not the real constitution it's part of colour law. So it's time for us true American to take our place because the universe says y'all imposters time is Allah to the politic body

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    Keath Even

    long clear practice and custom and our understanding they are illegal breaking the law !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!there it is BAM

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    Keath Even


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    impeach liarLiar mafiaDon&pricPence for violating their oath of office to uphold the constitution&all laws they have bothViolated consistently……

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    Jackeline Vila

    He is worst than Donald idiot.He is religioso .Very scary religios people are so horrible,hypocrite people.Horror!!!

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    Ad Lockhorst

    In the Netherlands the law is rather sensible; if you are born there you get Dutch citizenship provided that at least one of the parents has Dutch citizenship.

    In that respect I must say that Trump has a point really.

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    Sandra Logan

    The 14 was added to the Constitution for a specific reason. Can anyone tell me why we need it today. Does it benefit anyone other than illegals

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    Daniel Hopkins

    If, as the Declaration of Independence states, " governments are instituted among men (:) deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed", citizenship isnt a right , its an earned social contract and none of these systems have earned my Citizenship! Not that i search for perfection but descency, nit the samlance of it.

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    Dan Dales

    The NRA should be opposing this because if Trump can do this another president could do the same to the second amendment.

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    Frederick Pauly

    It was meant for slaves not illegal immigrants to come here and have their babies and then leave. Stupid people. Trumps should do what he has to do to stop birthright citizenship

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    CAN'T WAIT till old useless ginsbrurg gets OUT of the way so TRUMP can put ANOTHER GREAT NEW SUPREME court Judge to STOP ILLEGALS from abusing the LAWS. 🌝

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    Rod McDonald

    Do not even think of altering the second amendment but go ahead and alter the fourth amendment. Republicans are hypocrites.

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    bonjour itsizzy

    i think what the president and this administration has made clear is that they care more about money for themselves (greed) over people. no one is illegal on stolen land.

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    G Robinson

    The 14th amendment, was intended to end the questions about children from chattel slaves are Americans and not and never should've been used to include illegal, me a foundational black trace my legacy back to 1706 Charleston sc and i know that wasn't the intention of this law. They are coming for UNEARNED BENEFITS the same reason European came.

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