Citizenship Limbo for Dominican Haitians: Dominican Deadlock (Dispatch 2)

Citizenship Limbo for Dominican Haitians: Dominican Deadlock (Dispatch 2)


you know you didn’t available very good university I might think so we’re in Bettina Dan who is a small rural village in the outskirts of Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic 90% of this village is Haitian or Dominican Haitian and we’ve come here because we want to see if this new law that’s been very controversial is affecting people or not we’ve heard about this activist and she’s going to document a piano ok quando can Robin so are you serious are you trabajar aqui all of this you see around here was sugarcane at some point and now it’s not patients were brought in two generations ago to work on the fields but now most people who live here have become more poor because there is no sugarcane anymore this whole town right now it’s pretty scared they fear that the police may come and start deportations by Mahon definitely no no colette el caso de yeah yeah yeah I’m not here santo domingo is the in the sagas attenti aha yeah Mustafa come in tada Romeo a vanilla pod oh-oh-oh-oh a toasters muchachos karate alone a net loss since creo que no están de tu sabes que NOS pueden hacer la no yeah como la vie go ha ha AHA comenta creo que tienes Vitas a car pop el fallo Chico’s yes a las bar regular by scribble ha nombre otra persona while go Felina doesn’t seem to think that this situation will affect her but it actually will she has seven children who were born here and they have a right to have Dominican citizenship but now it’s too late for that and since the law changed they probably won’t be able to acquire the citizenship and if she ever was to leave or they were to leave they could be eventually stopped detained and deported but she doesn’t seem to be aware of that hey stop Milania Kemosabe no lo creo llamo Carmen Judy a London is better no no no and you know conocen ningún familiar que yeah when I am going to say people with the Medusa Patara Haggadah hold on a little better

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    Dmf Inc

    The Dominican republic has the right to pass law against illegal immigration   , USA HAVE RIGHT TO LO QUE PASA USA CANADA FRANCIA NO QUIEREN A ESO GRAJOSO MONO

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    Thomas Anderson

    I find it funny that people think a third world country has the resources to provide for immigrants from other countries. Poor Dominicans live under worse conditions than Haitians immigrants because they don't have 10k NGOs that are looking out for them.

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    Rebeca Fiallo

    Mejor lo digo en español.  Este reportaje es muy poco profesional, empezando con las expresiones de la reportera quien tiene un desconocimiento total sobre el tema.
    El drama haitiano como podemos ver con esa mujer que tiene NUEVE hijos y es tan irresponsable que no los ha registrado en el Libro de Extranjería.
    Es una pena que organizaciones que quieren ganarse un nombre lo hagan de una manera tan burda y haciendo lo que han hecho todas las ONG's: vivir de la pobreza haitiana.  Le debiera de dar vergüenza de subir such a piece of crap.

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    Rebeca Fiallo

    Si la caña no existe desde el 1998 y como dice la haitiana 'Tolentino' a ellos 'los compraban' (se le daba dinero al gobierno haitiano para traerlos hacer la labor de cortar la caña y estos debieran de haberse ido para su país al término).
    Son tan descarados que dicen que los registran a nombre de otros… eso es una barbaridad.

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    Gerardo Aguilar

    Yo me pregunto, por qué si eres tan pobre tienes nueve hijos, osea qué pasa con el mundo?

    I'm wonder, why if this woman is to poor she has nine children, i mean wtf?

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    URISGAYLE CONTRACTING

    Haitians are very good people, they are very good doctors,lawyers and neurosurgeons, in fact our former Governor General of Canada, the Honorable  Michaëlle Jean PC CC CMM COM CD FRCPSC is a Canadian stateswoman and former journalist who is the third and current Secretary-General of the Organisation internationale de la Francophonie. Her appointments point to the contributions Haitians have made to North America and to the west, Haitians work has been recognized in Canada and in England, Haitians make Canada proud and have a strong place in the Canadian political landscape and are ardent law makers and legislators from Montreal to Ottawa to France. It saddens me and members of my organization that Haitians and Jamaicans face racism and economic marginalization and even violence while seeking refuge and to find a better life. I would like to tell the government of Dominica that the world is watching.

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    The Madman

    I have something to say about citizenship in general in most places of the world. The man and the community in the beginning although of Haitian descent, spoke like Dominicans and clearly identify as such. These people should have the right to citizenship if they truly identify as Dominicans. On the other hand, if an individual identifies more as a Haitian, his/her citizenship is Haitian and they should have a right to residency. Residency and Citizenship are not the same thing, and as a Dominican, I think it strips us of cultural identity to grant citizenship to people who identify as Haitian. The solution is to grant residency, the problem is that many individuals don't have legal documentation, so they can't apply for legal residency.

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    EL Donjuan

    It's disgusting how one sided this report is.. Demonizing Dominicans that held the burden alone of millions of illegals and earthquake refugees..we get depicted as racists because we can't handle 10 billion undocumented hatians.. Worse is the mass brainwashing of social media to people who don't know the situation

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    Jonny Fresco

    I'm ashamed to be Dominican, this isn't cool, Haitians are people too and fuck the Red Cross and the Dominican government

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    Jazmin torres mendoza

    that part that we are not racist do not understand are black most also, we do fasil anyone who says we are racist and do not help haiti want inlegales Haitians in their country to tell us that the Dominican government regale air travel to every country that wants inlegales and want to help Haitians and thus help Haitians to live in a better place because DR is not rich and can not help while the legal Haitians to stay and peace for all

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    EL Donjuan

    VICE used a Colombian woman who is from the Unitedstates to go to the Dominican Republic and concentrate on the Haitians who did the wrong move and waited until the last second for residency. Then she goes into a predominantly hatian area where a woman has 9 children…hatians aren't recognized as citizens at birth because of the ignorance of parents who don't go through the process of a paper work that is necessary.. The report was biast & paints Dominicans wrong

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    corporanr

    Yo creo que vieron que ellos han contribuido al caos. Se le han dado todas las facilidades y no tomaron la oportunidad. En la cara se le ve a la reportera que no puede creer lo que escucha

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    Thomas Baez

    What is Monica Villamizar trying to proof here?? Her home country, USA, deports way more people than the Dominican Republic. Seriously Monica, what is the goal here? Telling and filming things out of context? This is a dirty way of selling news. Why dont you start telling the facts instead of asking and showing angry deportees what they think about DR? If these deportees think so bad about DR I think they did the right choice by leaving DR. if you dont like where you are, then you are better off leaving this place. Monica if i had come to the USA illegally and later the USA deported me of course i would me mad at the them, but this is a risk i would run if i had chosen to enter to the US illegally. Stop asking people if they were born in DR or not, that has nothing to do with citizenship. Citizenship is dictated by the Congress and the Constitution, not by the place of birth. Haiti itself has the same rule as DR "Citizenship is obtained through ancestry only," which means that your BIAS point, presumably dictated by how the USA grants citizenship at birth, does not apply in DR. I hate this ignorant reporters who just want to keep tension between two countries.

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    Rafael Camilo

    This journalist should go to Bahamas where Haitians are deported,  Should go too Cuban when they get there by boat, they are deported too.  Should talk to USA that provide year and halve to sty in USA then they have to go back.  In DR there are 3,000,000 millions being here for 6 years without paper.  Haitian government don't even provide them with document.  Many this people being dump without documentation, coming from jail, mental institution and expect another poor country to take care of then.  Haitian government are irresponsible dumping all this people in DR.

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    Rafael Camilo

    Haitian government should be overthrown for incapable to bring this people from extreme poverty.  They received billions of dollar and they do not seems to know how to handle this situation pocket the money and  dump then in DR.  Like you saying you handle this now is yours problem.  In Haiti is so out control that policing is handle buy United Nation and .they want to leave from there.  In DR we have 3,000,000 of this paper  without legal documentation running all over and settling where they can.  Haitian government they handle this by sending people to Brazil, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Bahama then dump 3,000,000 to Dominican Republic

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    Rafael Camilo

    After the earth quake Dominican built houses, hospital, school. Brought group doctor and all reserve medication we got to help then.  we were the first to get there and the last. Facilitate, airport, shipping port, hundred of container load with food and water. then an avalanche of people cross the border.  Now we face humanity crisis and they call us racist, and smearing Dominican all over the place.  Even this journalist is part of international conspiracy.

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    Rafael Camilo

    Dominican Republic has the right to establish and enforce its immigration law. In this small island have to set the tone to establish order.  This mushrooming Haitian population must be control and force Haitian government to handle the mess they have cause.  They very irresponsible and disgraceful after have we have done running international campaign against Dominican Republic

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    Nico B

    Tried to ask this question before but no one answered, if you are entered DR illegally i agree that's a crime and you should deal with the consequences, but why does the law have to go back to 1930. in essence if someones great grandmother came illegally to DR had children, those children have children who by all intensive purposes are Dominican by birth, culture, language food how do kick that person out and tell them they are not Dominican. That is a question which needs an answer. someone please give me a non biased non emotional logical response.

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    Edwin Acosta

    ESA LEY NUNCA HA EXISTIDO PENDEJA ESO ES EN USA EL 85% DEL MUNDO TIENE ESA MISMA LEY HABLAS SIN CONOCIMIENTO DE NUESTRAS LEYES Y EMITES UN JUICIO ERRONEO DE FORMA INTENCIONAL NO TE PUEDES LLAMAR PRENSA ERES UNA ESTAFA.

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    Christian Costa

    Y esta mmg que va a pais de Nosotro hace entrevital mmg
    Ella le tira a lo mango bajito esa mmg y Ella no save de donde viene el problema …..

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    an u

    You are from colombia right ,if you were illegal immigrants in the USA, do you think that you will not be deported? Why do not you go to colombia and interview la farc since they are killing people everyday. THAT is not your business. We as country have the right to deport illegal immigrants. We are the only country that Has ALWAYS helped Haitians. Me personally always helped them with food and jobs and all they have done is stilling from us and complainted about us.

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    dblocknyc

    this goes both ways. quite sad. its bad for DR to have used them and then kick em out when their done but it is their country. on the other hand i think its quite ridiculous that these people leave Haiti with nothing and expect to go to another country, have kids there and say "hey my kids are dominican so i should be able to stay"? just ignorance

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    Henny Oldman

    my ancestors were brought to pittsburgh to work in the steel mills. those mills are now gone. does that mean someone owes me a living?

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    alex morel

    Why force a poor country to give another poor country money and land and all these things when there's country's like us that is doing that to Mexicans deporting them back 1000s of them every single day

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    tregua24

    https://www.facebook.com/ramongarcia99/videos/vb.1634091013/10212839946506833/?type=3&theater

    There is no such controversy, in reality the main problem is an ever increasing massive illegal immigration (encouraged by its own government), which in turn creates an economical and unsustainable social problem. We are a poor 3rd world nation, with limited resources and incapable or unable of resolving the problems of our own people, much less, the problems of 11 million citizens of another nation. We do not have the resources to house them, we do not have enough schools, hospital, jobs, jails, etc. It is time for the United States, France, Canada and other developed countries to create a long-term developing plan, instead of just giving them handouts every time they face a natural disaster. If you want to know who really hates them, it is their own corrupted, inept and unwilling governments and their elites and very wealthy class. Haitian should empower themselves and demand their government to assume its responsibility. Enough with the playing the victims roll and the blaming the Dominican Republic for all their misshapes and failures.. The U.S. past administration with its open boarders agenda around the world, the Black Caucus, the Haitian media, the international media, and the social media (which serve special interests) are responsible for the negative campaign and for the discredit of the Dominican Republic using the 'racism', discrimination, intolerance rhetoric to coarse the authorities to have an open border policy. Their agenda is that the Haitian problem be solved in the Dominican Republic, so that way they don't have to..

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    Lewis C.

    For all the liberals crying about what is going on in the DR. How many Haitians are you personally taking into your homes? HOw much money are you donating to them? Please do something instead of always virtue signaling. You liberals are the biggest hypocrites on earth.

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    6minutes

    The leftists cynicism with Dominicans straight boggles my mind. There is NEVER any other explanation to them besides racism. No amount of facts, testimonies, documentation, or research matters when they label you a racist, it overrides all logic. I have yet to see a non-bias American news source on the issue. It seems like deep down they know that once the Dominicans get a fair evaluation, their arguments would be finished and there would no more "news" to report.

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    porfirio rubirosa

    Esta Chilena esta haciendo una campana contra RD para que los Haitianos se quede en Dominicana para fusionar la isla y de esa manera no emigren a el resto de America Latina que lo Haitianos estan haciendo ahora.

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    David Troncoso

    Haiti has the most racist history in the western hemisphere and that's why its population is so homogenous. After the so-called liberation of Saint Domingue (so-called because they paid France a huge amount to be "free"), Haiti executed the most complete ethnic cleansing on its turf after carrying out a genocidal execution of everybody who didn't look like them.

    In 1804 the whole island was NOT under haitian control. Haiti freed ONLY roughly one third of the island (present day Haiti, a name stolen from the indigenous). But the other roughly two-third of the island, Santo Domingo, was at the time still under French control. Santo Domingo became a colony of Spain again when Spain seized it from France via The Battle of Palo Hincado in 1808. From 1808 to 1821, it was known as The España Boba. In late 1821, without any haitian involvement, a dominican named Jose Nuñez de Caceres started a revolt that overthrew the spanish reign. This period is commonly known as the Ephemeral Independence because it lasted only three months. In 1822, Boyer unified the two countries for the next 22 years via a pacific invasion. The main goal of this unification was to help Haiti pay for it's paid "independence" from France. During this time span, the dominican state was heavily taxed and haitian racist laws caused the dominican population to be cut in half.

    In 1838, Juan Pablo Duarte started the movement that overthrew the haitian ocupation for good in 1844. But Haiti didn't give up. Haiti invaded the Dominican Republic for the next 12 years under the leadership of emperors like Faustin Soulouque. It it important to also mention the massacres that murderers like Dessalines and Christophe carried on innocent dominican men, women and children (haitian "historians" have unsuccesfully tried to mask these massacres as attacks aimed at french and spanish colonizers, but it's not the case). One of the most infamous massacre is The Beheading of Moca, in which haitian troops beheaded dominican children. Also notable was the burning of cities like Santiago and Moca in El Cibao. Dominican liberator of Cuba Maximo Gomez fought against haitian invaders early in his military career to protect The Dominican Republic.

    Toussaint Louvertune (who originally joined Spain to fight France in the island) didn't abolish slavery for long because Napoleon Bonaparte restored it shortly after. Slavery wasn't abolished in Santo Dominigo (present day The Dominican Republic) all the way until 1822. The Dominican Republic has not practiced slavery since.

    Haiti still practices slavery in 2017.

    Haitians massacred us in 1804 and then in 1822-42 , their hatred against Dominicans have been registered for centuries.

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    Melquan Green

    I hope that the USA do the same about citizenship. Just because you were born here doesn't mean you are from here, 💯%puro🇩🇴

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    Mac McIntosh

    so they are going to deport every dark skinned person that does not have papers to Haiti? So if they are light skinned they can stay i guess

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    Reggie Williams

    What difference does it make? Deep down they're both black and poor They need to merge and become one state, work together to get out of poverty

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    lem farba

    Haitians are terrified at the thought of having to live in haiti so how can they be upset at Dominicans for not wanting their nation to turn into haiti?

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    Julius Tovar

    I dont want to see one dominican in the USA, they are here illegally, if they can't show legitimate proof that they were born here, going back to 1923, they should be put on a banana boat and sent back to that disgusting racist country of theirs.

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    Junior M

    Haitians need other rich nations to bring them to there countries and stop assuming that the Dominican Republic needs to take them all. We are not fucking Haitians- Argentinos or whatever you mother fuckers want us to be. We are just Dominicans and fucking proud. Calls us black and whatever you want but we have a sobering nation and have the fucking right to deport undocumented just like and other country. Viva la República Dominicana carajo!!!!!!!!

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    bornbranded29

    Funny that Dominicans are infamous for illegal immigration and creating social problems, throughout latin america and the united states, and yet they are maligning people who want to have a better life, by working hard – in their 3rd world plastic land, full of drug dealers and sex workers.

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    Hub tv

    Why they love people's please more than their own country???? U think we will allow the Caribbean to Haitians only talking about Dominican Haitian, u only can be one of the two come to Jamaica with it and see if we don't take y'all fucking Head off and send it back to the government in Haiti the Dominicans joking too don't give them work to do in ur country pick them up without telling them anything then shot anything try cross over in ur land if they never in ur place they would not have anything to say in the first place

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    Escarlin Canario perez

    GUUUUAAOOO POR QUE QUIERE SACAR LOS HAITIANOS NI MODO ESA GENTE SON EJEMPLO SEGUN LA SEÑORA
    PERO QUE FALACIAAA LE VENDE AL MUNDOOO .

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    Ramon E Matos R

    Y PORQUÉ NO VAN A BUSCAR SUS DOCUMENTOS EN HAITÍ,PUES ELLOS SON HAITIANOS, QUIEREN COJER AL DOMINICANO DE PENDEJO!!!!

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    Eric Gregory

    These are not Dominican Haitians. Hahaha. These are Haitian Nationals living in Dominican Republic ILLEGALLY. They can go to America where Illegal Aliens can work without paying taxes, leech the system, steal identities, and have anchor babies. We uphold the constitution! Vote Ramfis Trujillo 2020!

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    Tony Tay

    Slavery abolition was due to Haïtian revolt, so Dominicans should be reminded that without the Haïtians they still would be under Spanish rules.  Dominicans should be ashamed of themselves of letting their neighbour in such inhuman conditions.

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    Melissa Griffin

    I do not understand why they do not understand the math behind immigration. For example: the women who illegally immigrated in 80's. had zero money for herself and her 2 children at that time. She has since had 7 more children. No money for them either. I guess it is a waist of time to ask about the father(s). If you do not have any money to feed yourself why continue to have sex and create more children. This is why I have always had a difficult time sympathizing. Stupid is what stupid does so deal with the consequences of your actions.

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    MR RC

    Basura falsa HP odian la Rep Dom los símbolos patrios se niegan hasta a cantar el himno nacional y dicen k son dominicanos anti dominicanos es lo que son

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    jim dandy

    Blacks are not in control of. Even there own country.they put a black as president.but how much control and power does has

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    jim dandy

    Every race look out for there own race.except the black peoples.this is one of the best problems.with blacks.they are sellouts

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    Yanick Pierre

    I'm not criticizing u don't come to somebody's land to give them more problem u come to better yourself.children are gift from God,how could one keep having the desire to have sex while you swimming in hardship and difficulties.for me it is plain selfishness.poor children who has to suffer.now as a law maker something got to be done.but these children deserves basic needs.these people are not to blame.now we facing a crisis human rights.think we are mothers and fathers.God bless.

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    Matt A

    The land and wealth man are fighting over will sooon be more lives if worthy to human. Dominic wiil pay for this. nature will do it's best with hurricanes to come. I will happen

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    Skylin Janns C

    Damn shame what the Dominican Republic is doing to Haitians!!! Haitians have to stop doing the things they're doing and turn back to God as a whole, ask forgiveness in Jesus name. The Haitians were reported in the biblical times to be God' Priest, i.e. known as the Levites. They've come a long way from their roots and they need to turn back to God and ask for forgiveness and for his help.

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    Jesus De Los Santos

    This is a bises documentary in pro of the Haitian invasion. Most of them are Haitians that have over stayed or entered illegally into the country. They enter into the country an have an average of 7.2 children each. Most are pretending to be Dominican born but a very thick Haitian accent, strange, no? Haitian of ILLEGAL Haitian parents are HAITIANS and BOTH constitutions very clearly indicate it.

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    MyEmail

    Great example of what those people do: uncontrollably have children and pay no taxes and we have to take care of them in our hospitals providing our public resources to people who hate us and discredit us internationally.

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    Diana Malave

    We need to respect the laws of each country I believe other nations should help the Haitian people restore there country the IN should get involved

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    Diana Malave

    Murmad man you are disgusting putting down puertoricans you don't know anything about how our people have been given racism and discrimination we deserve every penny we get for giving our children to fight these wars like Vietnam war lots puertoricans gave there lives and died for the USA and puertoricans died in fighting in ww2. The whites from USA also did experiments with our women there is a sin history you racist ugly horrible people dont care to know. You like to talk horrible about puertoricans but we are USA citizens and your hatred for our people of Puerto Rico will never win

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    Diana Malave

    Murman Man fake name you coward from help you sound full of jealousy and hatred for the puertoricans be careful you might die at the hands of us we are many and multiplying in the states

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    Diana Malave

    Our people are citizens and deserve every help and penny they can get you are trash and not educated

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    Diana Malave

    To anyone who hates puertoricans you can not judge everyone is not the same we are millions in number and multipling all over the state's and throughout the world we are all in the same boat maybe not exactly the same what we need to do is stop the hate and rac ism and find ways to improve our lives and help others

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    AleX C.

    I am Dominican. I am very ashamed of this happening to the Haitian.
    I think if the D. R. is doing this to the Haitian; the USA needs to pass the same law to apply only to dominicans born in the USA. Also they should make illegals for dominicans living in the USA to send money to the D. R.
    An Eye for Eye.

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