Donald Trump Expected To Order Adding Citizenship Question To Census | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

Donald Trump Expected To Order Adding Citizenship Question To Census | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


LEGALLY. IT IS GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO IT IS GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO CHALLENGE. CHALLENGE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. KELLY, PETE, THANK YOU BOTH SO KELLY, PETE, THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. MUCH. LET ME BRING IN MY LEAD-OFF TEAM LET ME BRING IN MY LEAD-OFF TEAM HERE JOINING THE CONVERSATION, HERE JOINING THE CONVERSATION, FORMER SPOKESPERSON FOR THE FORMER SPOKESPERSON FOR THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, A HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, A REGISTERED MEMBER OF BOTH REGISTERED MEMBER OF BOTH PARTIES. PARTIES. ALSO WITH ME JASON JOHNSON MSNBC ALSO WITH ME JASON JOHNSON MSNBC POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR AND POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR AND POLITICS EDITOR AT THE ROOT.COM. POLITICS EDITOR AT THE ROOT.COM. HELP ME OUT. HELP ME OUT. THIS WOULDN’T WORK. THIS WOULDN’T WORK. THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY BEING THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY BEING PRINTED. PRINTED. THERE WILL BE MAJOR LEGAL THERE WILL BE MAJOR LEGAL CHALLENGES. CHALLENGES. IS THIS ANYTHING MORE THAN A IS THIS ANYTHING MORE THAN A POLITICAL SHOW FOR THE POLITICAL SHOW FOR THE PRESIDENT? PRESIDENT?>>WELL, I THINK THE DANGER HERE>>WELL, I THINK THE DANGER HERE IS THAT WITH DONALD TRUMP WE’RE IS THAT WITH DONALD TRUMP WE’RE NOT JUST PLAYING WITH EMPTY NOT JUST PLAYING WITH EMPTY WORDS. WORDS. HE WILL TRY TO FORCE THE ISSUE HE WILL TRY TO FORCE THE ISSUE AND DO UNPRECEDENTED THINGS. AND DO UNPRECEDENTED THINGS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE REALIZE WHERE THE QUESTION REALIZE WHERE THE QUESTION ORIGINATED AND WHEN IT CAME ORIGINATED AND WHEN IT CAME ABOUT. ABOUT. IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR THE CENSUS IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR THE CENSUS BUREAU RELEASED A REPORT SAYING BUREAU RELEASED A REPORT SAYING THAT BY 2045 WHITE PEOPLE WOULD THAT BY 2045 WHITE PEOPLE WOULD BE THE MINORITY IN THIS COUNTRY. BE THE MINORITY IN THIS COUNTRY. A FEW WEEKS LATER IS WHEN WILBUR A FEW WEEKS LATER IS WHEN WILBUR ROSS ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING ROSS ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING TO ADD THIS QUESTION TO THE TO ADD THIS QUESTION TO THE CENSUS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 70 CENSUS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 70 YEARS. YEARS. NOW WHAT WE’RE SEEING IS THIS NOW WHAT WE’RE SEEING IS THIS REVERSE ENGINEERING OF, WELL, IT REVERSE ENGINEERING OF, WELL, IT TURNS OUT THE RATIONALE IS TURNS OUT THE RATIONALE IS PROBABLY ILLEGAL. PROBABLY ILLEGAL. THE SUPREME COURT STRUCK IT THE SUPREME COURT STRUCK IT DOWN. DOWN. THEY DON’T HAVE THE LEGAL THEY DON’T HAVE THE LEGAL GROUNDS TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE GROUNDS TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE FIGHTING THAT FIGHT. FIGHTING THAT FIGHT. NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO CREATE NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO CREATE COMPLETELY NEW GROUNDS TO COMPLETELY NEW GROUNDS TO JUSTIFY A DECISION THEY ALREADY JUSTIFY A DECISION THEY ALREADY REACHED FOR A MOTIVATION THAT IS REACHED FOR A MOTIVATION THAT IS ALREADY PUBLIC. ALREADY PUBLIC. I THINK IT IS NOT GOING TO STAND I THINK IT IS NOT GOING TO STAND UP IN COURT. UP IN COURT.>>KURT, WE’LL GIVE YOU A FREE>>KURT, WE’LL GIVE YOU A FREE PASS BUT WHEN YOU SAY PASS BUT WHEN YOU SAY UNPRECEDENTED ON THIS SHOW YOU UNPRECEDENTED ON THIS SHOW YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME $2. HAVE TO GIVE ME $2. JASON, LET’S SHARE WHAT THE JASON, LET’S SHARE WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID ABOUT THIS LAST PRESIDENT SAID ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK IN TERMS OF WHY THE WEEK IN TERMS OF WHY THE QUESTION NEEDED TO BE THERE. QUESTION NEEDED TO BE THERE.>>WELL, YOU NEED IT FOR MANY>>WELL, YOU NEED IT FOR MANY REASONS. REASONS. NUMBER ONE, YOU NEED IT FOR NUMBER ONE, YOU NEED IT FOR CONGRESS. CONGRESS. FOR DISTRICTING. FOR DISTRICTING. YOU NEED IT FOR APPROPRIATIONS. YOU NEED IT FOR APPROPRIATIONS. WHERE ARE THE FUNDS GOING? WHERE ARE THE FUNDS GOING? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE? ARE THEY CITIZENS? ARE THEY CITIZENS? ARE THEY NOT CITIZENS? ARE THEY NOT CITIZENS? YOU NEED IT FOR MANY REASONS. YOU NEED IT FOR MANY REASONS.>>DOES THE PRESIDENT REALLY>>DOES THE PRESIDENT REALLY THINK HE IS GOING TO GET THIS THINK HE IS GOING TO GET THIS THING ADDED OR IS THIS JUST A THING ADDED OR IS THIS JUST A PLAY FOR HIS BASE? PLAY FOR HIS BASE? WHEN HE GOES TO RUN AGAIN ALL OF WHEN HE GOES TO RUN AGAIN ALL OF THE THINGS HE DIDN’T GET DONE THE THINGS HE DIDN’T GET DONE HE’LL SAY, I WANTED TO GET IT HE’LL SAY, I WANTED TO GET IT DONE. DONE. I FOUGHT FOR YOU. I FOUGHT FOR YOU. IT’S THE SYSTEM. IT’S THE SYSTEM.>>STEPHANIE, WHAT WE’VE SEEN SO>>STEPHANIE, WHAT WE’VE SEEN SO FAR IS THAT PEOPLE LIE TO FAR IS THAT PEOPLE LIE TO PRESIDENT TRUMP ALL THE TIME AND PRESIDENT TRUMP ALL THE TIME AND TELL HIM HE CAN GET THINGS HE TELL HIM HE CAN GET THINGS HE CAN’T GET. CAN’T GET. I’M SURE HE WAS ANGRY WHEN THE I’M SURE HE WAS ANGRY WHEN THE SUPREME COURT SAID WE DON’T SUPREME COURT SAID WE DON’T REALLY BELIEVE YOUR REASONS. REALLY BELIEVE YOUR REASONS. IT IS JUST LIKE WITH THE MUSLIM IT IS JUST LIKE WITH THE MUSLIM BAN. BAN. YOU CAN’T TELL US IT’S THIS. YOU CAN’T TELL US IT’S THIS. WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA IT’S THAT. WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA IT’S THAT. WILLIAM BARR AND EVERYONE ELSE WILLIAM BARR AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL SAY, MR. PRESIDENT, WE’LL WILL SAY, MR. PRESIDENT, WE’LL FINDA WAY TO DO IT. FINDA WAY TO DO IT. I THINK THE PRESIDENT BELIEVES I THINK THE PRESIDENT BELIEVES HE CAN GET SOME OF THIS NONSENSE HE CAN GET SOME OF THIS NONSENSE DONE THOUGH YOU HAVE ENTIRE DONE THOUGH YOU HAVE ENTIRE LEGAL TEAMS SAYING THIS IS LEGAL TEAMS SAYING THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. IMPOSSIBLE. THAT IS THE DANGER OF HOW PEOPLE THAT IS THE DANGER OF HOW PEOPLE CODDLE THIS PRESIDENT. CODDLE THIS PRESIDENT. HE HAS CRAZY IDEAS THAT DON’T HE HAS CRAZY IDEAS THAT DON’T MAKE ANY SENSE, THAT VERY MAKE ANY SENSE, THAT VERY POSSIBLY HAVE RACIST MOTIVATIONS POSSIBLY HAVE RACIST MOTIVATIONS AND EVERYBODY PRETENDS THEY CAN AND EVERYBODY PRETENDS THEY CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN EVEN WHEN MAKE IT HAPPEN EVEN WHEN LEGALLY, HISTORICALLY, LEGALLY, HISTORICALLY, STRUCTURALLY, IT AIN’T GOING TO STRUCTURALLY, IT AIN’T GOING TO WORK. WORK.>>HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR THE>>HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR THE PRESIDENT TO HAVE BILL IN HIS PRESIDENT TO HAVE BILL IN HIS CORNER? CORNER? IF BARR IS PROVIDING LEGAL COVER IF BARR IS PROVIDING LEGAL COVER ISN’T THE PRESIDENT CLEAR? ISN’T THE PRESIDENT CLEAR?>>I THINK BILL BARR HAS BEEN>>I THINK BILL BARR HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ALLOWING THIS INSTRUMENTAL IN ALLOWING THIS PRESIDENT TO COMPLETELY DESTROY PRESIDENT TO COMPLETELY DESTROY THE PILLARS OF OUR THE PILLARS OF OUR CHECK-AND-BALANCE SYSTEM. CHECK-AND-BALANCE SYSTEM. NO SHOWING CONGRESSIONAL NO SHOWING CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS, ALL THE CONFLICT HEARINGS, ALL THE CONFLICT BETWEEN THE OVERSIGHT BETWEEN THE OVERSIGHT PREROGATIVE OF CONGRESS AND THE PREROGATIVE OF CONGRESS AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH HAS BEEN EXECUTIVE BRANCH HAS BEEN SPEARHEADED AND MASTERMINDED BY SPEARHEADED AND MASTERMINDED BY WILLIAM BARR. WILLIAM BARR. SO I THINK THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN SO I THINK THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN THE SITUATION IN THE FIRST THE SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE. PLACE. I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE BY NOTE THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE BY AND LARGE STOOD BY AND ALLOWED AND LARGE STOOD BY AND ALLOWED ALL OF THIS TO HAPPEN, ALL OF THIS TO HAPPEN, COMPLETELY CONTRADICTING COMPLETELY CONTRADICTING EVERYTHING THEY USED TO SAY THEY EVERYTHING THEY USED TO SAY THEY STOOD FOR BEFORE THE 2010 CENSUS STOOD FOR BEFORE THE 2010 CENSUS WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT REPUBLICANS ISSUED A RESOLUTION REPUBLICANS ISSUED A RESOLUTION WHICH THE MOST CONSERVATIVE WHICH THE MOST CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS LIKE JIM JORDAN VOTED MEMBERS LIKE JIM JORDAN VOTED FOR THAT SAID THE CENSUS NEEDS FOR THAT SAID THE CENSUS NEEDS TO INCLUDE COUNTING EVERY SINGLE TO INCLUDE COUNTING EVERY SINGLE LIVING PERSON. LIVING PERSON. DIDN’T MAKE A SINGLE MENTION OF DIDN’T MAKE A SINGLE MENTION OF CITIZENSHIP. CITIZENSHIP.>>MY GOODNESS.>>MY GOODNESS. JASON, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION JASON, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION THAT CAME OUT IN TODAY’S FIRST THAT CAME OUT IN TODAY’S FIRST READ. READ. BY CONTINUING TO FIGHT FOR THE BY CONTINUING TO FIGHT FOR THE CITIZENSHIP QUESTION, DOES CITIZENSHIP QUESTION, DOES PRESIDENT TRUMP ACHIEVE HIS PRESIDENT TRUMP ACHIEVE HIS INTENDED PURPOSE HERE? INTENDED PURPOSE HERE? A CHILLING EFFECT ON THE A CHILLING EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITIES RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITIES RESPONDING TO THE CENSUS? CENSUS?>>COMPLETELY.>>COMPLETELY. HE DOES THAT BY JAILING BABIES HE DOES THAT BY JAILING BABIES AT THE BORDER AND THREATENING AT THE BORDER AND THREATENING I.C.E. RAIDS EVERY 15 MINUTES. I.C.E. RAIDS EVERY 15 MINUTES. ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE OVERALL PLAN, OVERALL HOSTILITY OVERALL PLAN, OVERALL HOSTILITY TO NONWHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA. TO NONWHITE PEOPLE IN AMERICA. WHETHER IT IS THROUGH THE WHETHER IT IS THROUGH THE CENSUS, THROUGH THREATENING CENSUS, THROUGH THREATENING RAIDS, THE PRESIDENT’S OVERALL RAIDS, THE PRESIDENT’S OVERALL GOAL IS TO SAY, LOOK. GOAL IS TO SAY, LOOK. IF YOU DON’T LOOK LIKE A CERTAIN IF YOU DON’T LOOK LIKE A CERTAIN KIND OF WHITE PERSON I DON’T KIND OF WHITE PERSON I DON’T NECESSARILY WANT YOU TO FEEL NECESSARILY WANT YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. COMFORTABLE. IF YOU ARE NOT A REPUBLICAN IF YOU ARE NOT A REPUBLICAN SUPPORTER, I DON’T WANT YOU TO SUPPORTER, I DON’T WANT YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. FEEL COMFORTABLE. MY POLICIES ARE NOT GOING TO BE MY POLICIES ARE NOT GOING TO BE DRIVEN BY WAY OF MAKING AMERICA DRIVEN BY WAY OF MAKING AMERICA GREAT OR IMPROVING OUR ECONOMY. GREAT OR IMPROVING OUR ECONOMY. IT IS ABOUT CHANGING THE IT IS ABOUT CHANGING THE DEMOGRAPHIC DYNAMIC OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC DYNAMIC OF THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY. ENTIRE COUNTRY. HE IS ACCOMPLISHING HIS GOAL. HE IS ACCOMPLISHING HIS GOAL. SOCIAL SCIENTISTS HAVE ALREADY SOCIAL SCIENTISTS HAVE ALREADY COME OUT AND SAID EVEN TALKING COME OUT AND SAID EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE CITIZENSHIP QUESTION

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    Scott Gordon

    IT IS ILLEGAL just ask the US SUPREME COURT. sorry Trump you do not get to rewrite laws for your neo nazi agenda

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    Uncle Sam

    Every census since 1800 has had a citizenship question. Only Obama in 2010 changed this. MSM stop lying to the American people. It’s why you are fake news.

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    Mike Zimmer

    THE SUPREME COURT SAID "NO" TO TRUMPS CENSUS QUESTION…NOT THE DEMOCRATS!, Now, #4 5 has initiated his vengeance in the form of a racist WITCH. Diabetes, if you're listening, head to the White House and pay him a visit.

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    Doran Vee

    We have an awesome President!
    So true. Who would oppose a citizenship question, other than an illegal or a person that has no idea what it means to be a proud American

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    Someone Else

    https://youtu.be/tos1yD0ouUM?t=220
    The good old "President Chump" slip up, that is only highlighted when they immediately correct themselves.

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    BOMBAST-A-BLASTA

    As an Australian, I just thought you should know;
    The very first question on our mandatory Census is:
    Are you an Australian Citizen?
    Just common sense really. 🙄

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    Kay Bergstrom

    The Supreme Court said no and Trump's doing it anyway. Does that mean that we don't have to answer the question if we don't want to?

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    Veneil

    Donald Trump doesn't need any "reasons". He really has one "simple" goal: voter suppression. That's what this is about. Just another broad attack on non-Republican voters and trying to reduce their numbers simply by scaring them off! Even now, voter question or not, there will be a lot of people left with uncertainties, people who may feel so unnerved by Trump's relentless attacks on "aliens" and "illegal immigrants" that they may decide to just not fill out the census form anyway, or even not vote. THAT's what Trump and the Republican Party want because they believe that a substantial majority of those people would vote Democrat.

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    largraf

    Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Ginsburg and Elena Kagan, and Roberts voted against allowing the citizenship question. Well, I knew the 3 Jewish Lesbian Judges were going to vote against it.They're like a Obama's voting block, still doing Obama's bidding. And I'm really not surprised at Roberts … he's a Liberal turncoat, he needs to be removed or retired

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    fi stla

    Every country in the entire world asks this question on their national census, including USA in the past. The whole world is laughing at us.

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    Laurie Kilner

    Exactly what wanna be dictator Donald Trump wanted and bobble headed Attorney General William Barr agrees with. Here is to the choices you make to be least likely to win 2020. Not your humanitarian kind of President. But he may want your kidney, if you pay for the surgery. Nothing original on the home front from Donald Trump.

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    Tal Moore

    If the devil came to Donald Trump and said "Donald, I will make you president for life, but only on the condition that 10% of everyone in America will die." Trump wouldn't even hesitate to take that deal, because Trump has absolutely no moral compass. He's pretty much a sociopath.

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    Richie Rich

    The filth of man does not care about you peasants. Your lords & masters, the 1% have taken control of your nation and your rule is ended. Your democracy is dead, Corporation are now people and Money is free speech. Now just bow down and take your mark. Let these Gentiles finish their time, so we can finally be done with the filth of man.

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    Jeremy Morrison

    FRAUD ALERT!!!!!!! I just looked at questions on us census. In 2010 the form was shortened to 10 questions removing the citizen question but it was in the 2000 census and every one back to 1940. Kurt is a liar and it only took 2 minutes to fact check. Shame one msnbs for putting out fake news. Your editor should be replaced with one that is capable of doing a little homework.

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