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CORRESPONDENT PETER ALEXANDER, CORRESPONDENT PETER ALEXANDER,
KIMBERLY ATKINS, SHAWNA THOMAS, KIMBERLY ATKINS, SHAWNA THOMAS,
BUREAU CHIEF FOR VICE NEWS, AND BUREAU CHIEF FOR VICE NEWS, AND
LOS ANGELES TIMES COLUMNIST LOS ANGELES TIMES COLUMNIST
JONAH JONAH
JONAH GOLDBERG. JONAH GOLDBERG.
WELCOME, ALL. WELCOME, ALL. SHAWNA, I FEEL LIKE — AND I
WORRIED ABOUT THIS GOING INTO WORRIED ABOUT THIS GOING INTO
BOTH OF THOSE INTERVIEWS, THAT I BOTH OF THOSE INTERVIEWS, THAT I
WOULD COME OUT OF IT WITH NO WOULD COME OUT OF IT WITH NO
ANSWERS. ANSWERS. AND WERE IN THIS CUL-DE-SAC.
IT FEELS AS IF — AND I THINK IT FEELS AS IF — AND I THINK
ITS BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT, ITS BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT,
BUT I DONT KNOW HOW WE GET OUT BUT I DONT KNOW HOW WE GET OUT
OF THIS CUL-DE-SAC. OF THIS CUL-DE-SAC.
>>I THINK SECRETARY — FORMER>>I THINK SECRETARY — FORMER
SECRETARY JEH JOHNSONS OP-ED IN SECRETARY JEH JOHNSONS OP-ED IN
THE POST WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THE POST WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE
HE BASICALLY SAID COMPREHENSIVE HE BASICALLY SAID COMPREHENSIVE
IMMIGRATION REFORM IS SUPER IMMIGRATION REFORM IS SUPER HARD. HARD. WE TRIED IT DURING THE OBAMA WE TRIED IT DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, DIDNT GET IT ADMINISTRATION, DIDNT GET IT DONE EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS SOME DONE EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS SOME BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT. BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT.>>THEY TRIED IT IN THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION, AND IT DIDNT ADMINISTRATION, AND IT DIDNT
GET DONE. GET DONE.>>EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS>>EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT ON WHAT TO BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT ON WHAT TO DO. DO. THE THING I KEEP WONDERING IS THE THING I KEEP WONDERING IS THE SAME QUESTION YOU ASKED HIM, THE SAME QUESTION YOU ASKED HIM, WHICH IS, OKAY, REPUBLICANS AND WHICH IS, OKAY, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, YOU BOTH ACKNOWLEDGE DEMOCRATS, YOU BOTH ACKNOWLEDGE THAT KIDS IN CAGES AND THOSE THAT KIDS IN CAGES AND THOSE PHOTOS YOU SHOWED BEFORE WE WENT PHOTOS YOU SHOWED BEFORE WE WENT TO BREAK IS TERRIBLE. TO BREAK IS TERRIBLE. THIS IS NOT HOW AMERICA TREATS THIS IS NOT HOW AMERICA TREATS PEOPLE. PEOPLE. WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN HHS FACILITIES TO MOVE PEOPLE, HHS FACILITIES TO MOVE PEOPLE, WHICH IS WHY ITS TAKING SO WHICH IS WHY ITS TAKING SO LONG. LONG. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND MAYBE FORCE THE TOGETHER AND MAYBE FORCE THE PRESIDENT INTO DOING SOMETHING. PRESIDENT INTO DOING SOMETHING. I THINK THE OTHER THING WE KNOW I THINK THE OTHER THING WE KNOW IS THE PRESIDENT THINKS THIS IS IS THE PRESIDENT THINKS THIS IS A DETERRENT. A DETERRENT. AND EVERY TIME WE PUT THESE AND EVERY TIME WE PUT THESE PICTURES OUT THERE, ITS A PICTURES OUT THERE, ITS A DETERRENT. DETERRENT. AND HE IS NOT — AND HE IS NOT –>>IS IT?>>IS IT?>>WELL –>>WELL –>>WHATS THE EVIDENCE ITS A
DETERRENT?HE EVIDENCE ITS A DETERRENT? RIGHT? RIGHT?>>BUT HES HOPING ITS A
DETERRENT. HOPING ITS A DETERRENT. AND IF PEOPLE COME OUT AND THEIR AND IF PEOPLE COME OUT AND THEIR STORIES ARE TERRIBLE, MAYBE HE STORIES ARE TERRIBLE, MAYBE HE WILL END UP GETTING WHAT HE WILL END UP GETTING WHAT HE WANTS OUT OF THAT. WANTS OUT OF THAT.>>JONAH, I HAVE A FEELING IF>>JONAH, I HAVE A FEELING IF THE PRESIDENT — CAPITOL HILL THE PRESIDENT — CAPITOL HILL COULD SOLVE THIS IF THE COULD SOLVE THIS IF THE PRESIDENT WERE INVOLVED.
>>OH, THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT>>OH, THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT
ABOUT MANY THINGS. ABOUT MANY THINGS. BUT LOOK, ITS TELLING.
THAT VIDEO YOU SHOWED AT THE THAT VIDEO YOU SHOWED AT THE
BEGINNING OF SARAH FABIAN, THE BEGINNING OF SARAH FABIAN, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LAWYER, TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LAWYER, DEFENDING THOSE CONDITIONS, DEFENDING THOSE CONDITIONS, WHATS LEFT OUT IN A LOT OF WHATS LEFT OUT IN A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE IS THAT WAS A MEDIA COVERAGE IS THAT WAS A CASE FROM THE OBAMA CASE FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. ADMINISTRATION. THE POINT BEING THAT THIS IS THE POINT BEING THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN ACTUALLY A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN TRUMP. TRUMP. THE NATURE OF THE IMMIGRANTS WHO THE NATURE OF THE IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE TRYING TO CROSS THE BORDER ARE TRYING TO CROSS THE BORDER IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OUR IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OUR SYSTEM WAS SET UP TO DEAL WITH. SYSTEM WAS SET UP TO DEAL WITH. IT USED TO BE ABLE-BODIED, IT USED TO BE ABLE-BODIED, SINGLE MEN, MOSTLY FROM MEXICO,
COMING ACROSS THE BORDER.EXICO, COMING ACROSS THE BORDER.
WE HAVE A LEGAL SYSTEM TO DEAL WE HAVE A LEGAL SYSTEM TO DEAL WITH THAT.
NOW BECAUSE OF THE FLORES NOW BECAUSE OF THE FLORES
DECISION AND OTHER ASPECTS OF DECISION AND OTHER ASPECTS OF
OUR LAW, YOU HAVE CENTRAL OUR LAW, YOU HAVE CENTRAL AMERICANS BRINGING SMALL KIDS. AMERICANS BRINGING SMALL KIDS. THEY BASICALLY ARE USING THESE THEY BASICALLY ARE USING THESE KIDS, SOMETIMES THEYRE NOT KIDS, SOMETIMES THEYRE NOT THEIR OWN KIDS, SOMETIMES THEY
ARE, OBVIOUSLY, USING THESE KIDS ARE, OBVIOUSLY, USING THESE KIDS
AS A PASS TO GET ACROSS THE AS A PASS TO GET ACROSS THE
BORDER. BORDER. AND JEH JOHNSON IS ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT.H JOHNSON IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WILL HURD IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WILL HURD IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IF WE DONT DEAL WITH THE IF WE DONT DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM AS IT ACTUALLY EXISTS PROBLEM AS IT ACTUALLY EXISTS RATHER THAN THE ONE WE IMAGINE RATHER THAN THE ONE WE IMAGINE IT TO BE, IT CREATES — AS THE IT TO BE, IT CREATES — AS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DISCOVERED, OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DISCOVERED, IT CREATES A PERVERSE INCENTIVE
TO SEND MORE PEOPLE TO THENTIVE TO SEND MORE PEOPLE TO THE
BORDER. BORDER.>>BUT THE INCENTIVE IS ALSO>>BUT THE INCENTIVE IS ALSO BEING EXACERBATED BY THE TRUMP BEING EXACERBATED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND BY TRUMP AND ADMINISTRATION AND BY TRUMP AND HIS POLICIES AND RHETORIC
ITSELF.ICIES AND RHETORIC ITSELF. TALKING ABOUT CUTTING AID TO
THESE COUNTRIES.TTING AID TO THESE COUNTRIES.
USING KIDS, I DONT KNOW IF USING KIDS, I DONT KNOW IF
THEYRE SO MUCH USING KIDS. THEYRE SO MUCH USING KIDS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME, CHILDREN COME WITH A FAMILY CHILDREN COME WITH A FAMILY MEMBER. MEMBER. IF IT IS NOT A PARENT, THEYRE IF IT IS NOT A PARENT, THEYRE TREATED AS IF THEYRE AN
UNACCOMPANIED MINOR. AN UNACCOMPANIED MINOR.
THESE ARE PEOPLE COMING AS THESE ARE PEOPLE COMING AS FAMILIES, ESCAPING ATROCIOUS FAMILIES, ESCAPING ATROCIOUS CONDITIONS. CONDITIONS. IF THEY SEE WHATS HAPPENING AT IF THEY SEE WHATS HAPPENING AT THE BORDER, IF THEY KNOW, THAT THE BORDER, IF THEY KNOW, THAT JUST TELLS YOU HOW ATROCIOUS JUST TELLS YOU HOW ATROCIOUS THESE CONDITIONS ARE. THESE CONDITIONS ARE. BUT THE PRESIDENT SEES THIS NOT BUT THE PRESIDENT SEES THIS NOT ONLY AS A DETERRENT, BUT HE SEES ONLY AS A DETERRENT, BUT HE SEES IT AS A POLITICAL ADVANTAGE. IT AS A POLITICAL ADVANTAGE. HE SEES HES BEING TOUGH ON
IMMIGRATION.BEING TOUGH ON IMMIGRATION. THATS WHAT HIS PEOPLE WANT. THATS WHAT HIS PEOPLE WANT. THATS WHY HE STOOD UP IN 2017
AND 2018, HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AND 2018, HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY
TO DO IMMIGRATION REFORM. TO DO IMMIGRATION REFORM.
HE COULD HAVE SAID, I DID WHAT HE COULD HAVE SAID, I DID WHAT BUSH AND OBAMA COULDNT DO.
AND HE WALKED AWAY FROM IT, BOTH AND HE WALKED AWAY FROM IT, BOTH
TIMES, BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WAS TIMES, BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WAS
POLITICAL. POLITICAL.>>IM STRUCK BY A COUPLE
THINGS.TRUCK BY A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, THE PRESIDENT HAD
A DIFFERENT REACTION WHEN HE SAW A DIFFERENT REACTION WHEN HE SAW
THOSE SYRIAN CHILDREN. THOSE SYRIAN CHILDREN. OBVIOUSLY THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE OBVIOUSLY THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT. HE SAW THE IMAGES OF WHAT WAS HE SAW THE IMAGES OF WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE TO THESE CHILDREN TAKING PLACE TO THESE CHILDREN OVERSEAS. OVERSEAS. HE THOUGHT THE SOLUTION WAS HE THOUGHT THE SOLUTION WAS EASY. EASY. I COULD BOMB THESE RUNWAYS. I COULD BOMB THESE RUNWAYS. DIDNT HURT ANYBODY AND I GOT TO DIDNT HURT ANYBODY AND I GOT TO BE THE HERO. BE THE HERO. WHY HASNT HE HAD THE SAME WHY HASNT HE HAD THE SAME IMPACT — WHY HASNT HE SHOWN IMPACT — WHY HASNT HE SHOWN THE SAME EMPATHY TO SOME OF
THESE CHILDREN IN THE UNITED THESE CHILDREN IN THE UNITED
STATES? STATES? I SPOKE TO A TRUMP ALLY WHO SAID I SPOKE TO A TRUMP ALLY WHO SAID ITS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ITS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT THINKS THIS IS MORE COMPLICATED, THINKS THIS IS MORE COMPLICATED, SOME PEOPLE SAY HES THE BAD SOME PEOPLE SAY HES THE BAD GUY. GUY. SO CLEARLY THE BAD GUY HAS TO BE SO CLEARLY THE BAD GUY HAS TO BE THE DEMOCRATS. THE DEMOCRATS. THE PRESIDENT IS SO FOCUSED ON THE PRESIDENT IS SO FOCUSED ON MARKETING AND SELLING, RIGHT? MARKETING AND SELLING, RIGHT? SO THIS IS ALL ABOUT — THATS SO THIS IS ALL ABOUT — THATS WHY HE PUT OUT THE TWEET SAYING WHY HE PUT OUT THE TWEET SAYING WERE GOING TO DEPORT MILLIONS
AND MILLIONS OF THESEMILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF THESE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. CHUCK, THEY HAVE 6,000 CHUCK, THEY HAVE 6,000 DEPORTATION OFFICERS IN THE DEPORTATION OFFICERS IN THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. YOURE NOT DEPORTING MILLIONS OF YOURE NOT DEPORTING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. PEOPLE.>>BUT HELL KEEP SAYING.>>BUT HELL KEEP SAYING.>>OF COURSE, BECAUSE THE BOTTOM>>OF COURSE, BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE MESSAGE.
>>WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE>>WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE
CENSUS. CENSUS. WHY DOES HE CONTINUE TO FIGHT
THIS?OES HE CONTINUE TO FIGHT THIS? HE NEEDS TO BE SEEN BY HIS BASE
AS FIGHTING, BUT IF HE WAS BASE AS FIGHTING, BUT IF HE WAS
TRYING TO MAKE A LEGAL ARGUMENT TRYING TO MAKE A LEGAL ARGUMENT TO GET IT BACK, THIS COMMENT TO GET IT BACK, THIS COMMENT HERE DESTROYED ANY CHANCE OF HERE DESTROYED ANY CHANCE OF THAT. THAT. TAKE A LISTEN. TAKE A LISTEN.>>WELL, YOU NEED IT FOR MANY>>WELL, YOU NEED IT FOR MANY REASONS. REASONS. NUMBER ONE, YOU NEED IT FOR NUMBER ONE, YOU NEED IT FOR CONGRESS. CONGRESS. YOU NEED IT FOR CONGRESS, FOR YOU NEED IT FOR CONGRESS, FOR DISTRICTING. DISTRICTING. YOU NEED IT FOR APPROPRIATIONS. YOU NEED IT FOR APPROPRIATIONS. WHERE ARE THE FUNDS GOING? WHERE ARE THE FUNDS GOING? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE?
ARE THEY CITIZENS?E THERE? ARE THEY CITIZENS? ARE THEY NOT CITIZENS? ARE THEY NOT CITIZENS? YOU NEED IT FOR MANY REASONS. YOU NEED IT FOR MANY REASONS.>>SHAWNA.>>SHAWNA.>>YEAH, I MEAN, NUMBER ONE IN
THIS COUNTRY, WHEN WE REDISTRICT THIS COUNTRY, WHEN WE REDISTRICT
BASED ON THE CENSUS, WE DO IT BASED ON THE CENSUS, WE DO IT
BASED ON PERSONS, NOT CITIZENS. BASED ON PERSONS, NOT CITIZENS. WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING IS WHEN
HE SAYS THAT, IS HE TRYING TOEN HE SAYS THAT, IS HE TRYING TO
TURN THIS INTO A PLOY WHERE WE TURN THIS INTO A PLOY WHERE WE REDISTRICT BASED ON CITIZENSHIP?
IF THATS THE CASE, WHAT A LOTIP? IF THATS THE CASE, WHAT A LOT
OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID IS THAT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID IS THAT
MEANS REPUBLICANS ARE AN MEANS REPUBLICANS ARE AN
ADVANTAGE. ADVANTAGE. WHITE PEOPLE HAVE AN ADVANTAGE. WHITE PEOPLE HAVE AN ADVANTAGE. BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SPECIFICALLY SAID IN THIS CASE
THAT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
DISCRIMINATION. DISCRIMINATION. THE SUPREME COURT DIDNT EVEN THE SUPREME COURT DIDNT EVEN TAKE THAT PART UP. TAKE THAT PART UP. THEY DIDNT LET THEM TAKE THAT THEY DIDNT LET THEM TAKE THAT PART UP. PART UP. NOW THE MARYLAND JUDGE IS NOW THE MARYLAND JUDGE IS LETTING THEM TAKE THAT PART UP.
NOW THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER UP. NOW THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER
SIDE, THE PLAINTIFFS, HAVE THIS. SIDE, THE PLAINTIFFS, HAVE THIS.
>>BUT JONAH, I DONT MEAN TO BE>>BUT JONAH, I DONT MEAN TO BE THIS CYNICAL HERE, BUT THE
PRESIDENT IS GOING TO CONTINUE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO CONTINUE
TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND EVEN TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND EVEN THOUGH IT WONT BE ON THE FORM,
MANY HISPANICS MAY HEAR THAT IT MANY HISPANICS MAY HEAR THAT IT
IS ON THE FORM OR MAY FEAR THAT IS ON THE FORM OR MAY FEAR THAT
ITS ON THE FORM. ITS ON THE FORM. HE HAS NOW SAID IT ENOUGH, AND HE HAS NOW SAID IT ENOUGH, AND MAYBE THATS — THE DAMAGE IS MAYBE THATS — THE DAMAGE IS DONE. DONE.>>MAYBE.>>MAYBE. THERES A WHIFF OF THERES A WHIFF OF FOUR-DIMENSIONAL CHESS THAT FOUR-DIMENSIONAL CHESS THAT YOURE DESCRIBING. YOURE DESCRIBING.>>WELL, AND HES NEVER A>>WELL, AND HES NEVER A FOUR-DIMENSIONAL PLAYER. FOUR-DIMENSIONAL PLAYER.>>WE SHOULD BE CLEAR.>>WE SHOULD BE CLEAR. I ACTUALLY THINK THE EXECUTIVE I ACTUALLY THINK THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH HAS EVERY CONSTITUTIONAL BRANCH HAS EVERY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO ACTUALLY ASK ABOUT
CITIZENSHIP AND NATIVITY, WHICH CITIZENSHIP AND NATIVITY, WHICH
IT DID FOR ABOUT 190 YEARS. IT DID FOR ABOUT 190 YEARS.
THIS WAS A COMPLETELY UNFORCED THIS WAS A COMPLETELY UNFORCED
ERROR WHICH JUSTICE ROBERTS ERROR WHICH JUSTICE ROBERTS BASICALLY SAID IF YOU HADNT
SCREWED UP THE WAY YOU DID THIS, SCREWED UP THE WAY YOU DID THIS,
YOU COULD ASK IT. YOU COULD ASK IT. THE PROBLEM IS TRUMP IS NOT
GETTING THAT MESSAGE, ANDOT GETTING THAT MESSAGE, AND
THEYRE NOT GETTING THEIR DUCKS THEYRE NOT GETTING THEIR DUCKS
IN A ROW. IN A ROW. IF THEY JUST WERE LESS ON THE IF THEY JUST WERE LESS ON THE CRAZY TRAIN, THEY COULD GET SOME CRAZY TRAIN, THEY COULD GET SOME OF THE THINGS THEY WANT DONE. OF THE THINGS THEY WANT DONE.>>ITS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN>>ITS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GROWING PAINS AND THE PAINS OF GROWING PAINS AND THE PAINS OF NOT GROWING. NOT GROWING. I WAS SO STRUCK BY WHAT THE I WAS SO STRUCK BY WHAT THE LAWYERS SAID WHEN THEY WERE LAWYERS SAID WHEN THEY WERE DISCUSSING THIS. DISCUSSING THIS. THE LAWYERS SAID, AS THE TWEET THE LAWYERS SAID, AS THE TWEET CAME OUT, THIS WAS THE FIRST CAME OUT, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THE LAWYER HEARD ABOUT IT. TIME THE LAWYER HEARD ABOUT IT. QUOTE, IM GOING TO DO MY QUOTE, IM GOING TO DO MY ABSOLUTE BEST TO FIGURE OUT ABSOLUTE BEST TO FIGURE OUT WHATS GOING ON HERE. WHATS GOING ON HERE.>>BY THE WAY, I WANT TO TAKE>>BY THE WAY, I WANT TO TAKE THAT QUOTE — WE SHOULD QUICKLY THAT QUOTE — WE SHOULD QUICKLY PUT IT UP. PUT IT UP. IT COULD APPLY TO EVERY TWEET HE
HAS EVER SAID TO ANYERY TWEET HE HAS EVER SAID TO ANY
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL. ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL. HERE IT IS. HERE IT IS. THE TWEET THIS MORNING WAS THE THE TWEET THIS MORNING WAS THE FIRST I HAD HEARD OF THE FIRST I HAD HEARD OF THE PRESIDENTS POSITION ON THIS PRESIDENTS POSITION ON THIS ISSUE, JUST LIKE THE PLAINTIFFS ISSUE, JUST LIKE THE PLAINTIFFS AND YOUR HONOR. AND YOUR HONOR. I DO NOT HAVE A DEEPER I DO NOT HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT MEANS UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT MEANS AT THIS JUNCTURE OTHER THAN WHAT AT THIS JUNCTURE OTHER THAN WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS TWEETED. THE PRESIDENT HAS TWEETED. BUT OBVIOUSLY AS YOU CAN BUT OBVIOUSLY AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IM DOING MY ABSOLUTE IMAGINE, IM DOING MY ABSOLUTE BEST TO FIGURE OUT WHATS GOING BEST TO FIGURE OUT WHATS GOING ON. ON.>>ITS ALSO THE CONVERSATION WE>>ITS ALSO THE CONVERSATION WE ALL HAD WITH OUR BOSSES.
>>IT IS THE — THAT IS, TO ME,>>IT IS THE — THAT IS, TO ME,
THE QUOTE OF THE ADMINISTRATION. THE QUOTE OF THE ADMINISTRATION.>>THE BOTTOM LINE IS HE HAS THE>>THE BOTTOM LINE IS HE HAS THE PERCEPTION OF FIGHTING. PERCEPTION OF FIGHTING. THATS WHY THERES ALL THIS THATS WHY THERES ALL THIS SHIFTING GOING ON BEHIND THE SHIFTING GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

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