Social Credit System Coming To China, With Citizens Scored On Behavior | NBC Nightly News

Social Credit System Coming To China, With Citizens Scored On Behavior | NBC Nightly News


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    incendie21

    Isn't the social credit score similar to the credit score in the usa, or am i forgrtting something.

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    G D

    It seems humans cant defeat the god who made this possible, if we humans could work together to defeat this curse from creation, you are all dam fools who can't see you were created to defeat yourself and like a dam fool thats what you do

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    G D

    Thats not jay walking, asians eat a lot of fish genectically they are confident in getting and moving close to each other i know from experience, we can accept it is foolishness, intelligent but dumb, this kind of asian activity proves they descriminate, they arent concerned with emotion isnt this why America is pressing N. Korea to free dictatorship. Im just scratching the surface

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    jane lin

    all Australian telecommunication companies running credit check to decide if you eligible to get a sim card or a phone with plan? ppl in bad credit can't even get a phone:P

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    G D

    Sounds like government bullying here china you not criminals but since humans cant accept imperfect humans now you are criminals to yourself idiots

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    John Stockton

    Since the beginning of the New Testament, people laughed at the Bible's description of the end-times, when the world will go through a hellish period before Christ's 2nd coming. Because the AntiChrist is described as someone yeilding world-wide control of people. Up until now no one could really imagine how that could happen. But here we see how it will happen over BILLIONS of people. Give it 50 years from now, or so, and everything the Bible said would have to be in place, will be in place, perhaps even a 1-world economy. An amazing story of how the Bible is really God's Word, and can be trusted and believed. It is nothing to laugh abouy anymore!

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    Citizen World

    Chinese fools do love a Cultural Revolution. Whatever serves to distract people from the fact they are ruled by an authoritarian and dictatorial regime.

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    nabie98

    Poor Chinese! So they can’t even say they don’t want the social credit system without risking their credit scores! This is a complete Orwellian system in the worst suffocating form!

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    nabie98

    So 11 millions are forbidden to use airplane and 4 millions are even denied to travel by trains, and there’s no rebels? And the majority of people have to agree and comply with this horrifying system, even believing that it is good for the public? This is very concerning! UN needs to get involved. It is potentially the worst and the largest scale of human right violation and population control. Obviously, Chinese people lost the ability to resist because their thoughts and comments are being monitored. This should have been the much bigger news and the world should have reacted much more keenly, as we have been warned by novels and movies that describe the rise of such dystopian society! If Chinese government successfully roll out this system, it won’t end there! The ruling power would envy such control on large population, and do whatever it takes to mimic this system.

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    Sheldon Cooper

    So basically if the government sees you doing something it doesn't like you get negatively affected.

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    Seattle

    i dont see much difference here in america, we have a credit score system that works basically the same way, just not as advanced

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    Marius M

    Truly Orwellian, and ultimately a Revolution will happen in a blinding second, and with it a tsunami crushing communism's hard repressions. just you watch. it won't be pretty

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    Raynold Reagan

    you know that most american commenters are stupid coz America did it first before China

    google and youtube Edward Snowden

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    Ray Perez

    Did NBC news just say people are in china required to work unpaid to gain benefits in this system? Isn't that slavery? What choice do the citizens of China have in terms of well their own lives and agency.

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    obsidianstatue

    the amount of mis-information is either due to the fact that there are few official information about this system, or the western propaganda agencies are deliberately misrepresenting this system, here are some interesting points.

    1) at 0:22 you can clearly see on the top of her phone screen it says "Zhima Credit" which means "sesame credit" this is a credit system used by Alibaba users (Chinese amazon created by Jack Ma), it DOES NOT monitor your behavior outside of purchasing habits, and is not too different from credit rating in the west.

    2) 0:49 the news then cuts to an AI camera maker in China and asks a loaded question, the problem here is that the audience is not presented the context of the privacy question, so is that question in reference to the so called Credit system OR is it simply a question about CCTV cameras?

    3) 1:26 this is the typical sub district program in China, these community level offices are free to create initiatives, and is in no way connected nationally. and has absolutely no authority outside of their sub district, which is often several apartment complex.

    4) 1:50 similar cases have been reported on by other news agencies, where someone is black listed from purchasing plane tickets and HIGH SPEED TRAIN (not all train) tickets, the similarities on all those cases were that these people VIOLATED a court order. so it's a form of punishments similar to community service in the west, and these travel bans has a time limit, meaning they'll be taken off of the black list after a while (as reported by another new story)
    BUT this travel ban black list HAS NOTHING TO DO with any of the previous programs whether it be a credit rating of a private company like Alibaba, or a community based initiative.

    so the ONLY national government backed program, in this report is the travel ban. which is linked to the Chinese judicial system. but of course bralnwashed still thinks it's clever to crack the black mirror or 1984 joke.

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    Name Again

    I hear all this talk about black mirror. But do you all remember the movie demolition man with sly stone and sandra bullock? Remember whenever he cussed or did something that wasnt with the societal norm how he got credita removed. "John spartan, you are fined credit for for language violation".. this is THAT! Just wait until theres a world wide version of this along with some iteration of blockchain. Think about it. Ipv6 already has the capability of being the backbone for such service.

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    Arif Gunawan

    this could only work when they have a sustainable and stable economy though, nobody knows what will happen to the economy in the future….

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    David Wilson

    China has lost it ways.. wouldn't be surprised if there is a uprising with common folks..I feel sorry for citizens of China..

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    salistyan simanungkalit

    Maybe many of us have been educated for 20 years, starting from "Kindergarten – Doctoral Education".

    Surely you are educated about ethics, manners and tolerance.

    Please do not like starving pigs fighting over food like a child or maybe defecating in an airplane cabin, not only are you shy, but your innocent neighbors are exposed to insults from people.

    The airplane has no air vents and oxygen is only enough for a few tens of minutes, if the passenger is you and you are stuck with the smell of dirt in the cabin of the aircraft. What are you going to do, just seeing the videos of people will be angry.

    If you are smart, you should know what a " TOILET" is !!!

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    T. Mitchell

    “The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently… Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
    – George Orwell 1984

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    TactileCoder

    This goes beyond dictatorship. It's an attack on a concept I call "primitive freedom" — the idea that even the thought and security of an intimate moment has been robbed from you. This is a type of cancerous system that should be fought head on.

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    mrmashedpotato

    Does beating a dog to death with a 2×4 count against my score? How about running over a toddler?

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    Hendrik Petersen

    The idea isn't even bad… But the punishment is crazy. Not being able to send your kids to a good school? wtf…
    Maybe a little discount on something would be good. But no punishment.

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    Gilbert Salazar

    Chinese people are so obedient and manipulative they have no backbone to stand up to their oppressive government.

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    Mark Mention

    And that children, is the reason why you should elect conservatives to our government, who's main goal is to reduce federal control and power.

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    Blazing Angels

    I'll tell you what we as the small few need to stand up and be the change. as in take out any form of united nations or big governments that feel they need to do something so stupid and controlling. I'm sure this will be the start of the destruction of humanity.

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    Wilfried Fuiscklam

    Under the NWO it will come to everybody. China got their money for their economical success from wall street. The ruling elite controls China!
    It has become a test-terrain for them.

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    t md

    And the UK government is forcing UK nationals into this system in China by forcing them out of the UK into China!

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    Iris Sheng

    Lol…that’s not true. How could anyone believe that? They’re just showing the credit system from a financial app called Alipay – the credits are accumulated while using the app (e.g. whether you paid your shopping bills prepaid by Alipay)

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    Victoria Walker

    NOSE DIVE EPISODE IN BLACK MIRROW PREDICTED THIS. THAT SHOW CAME OUT IN 2016!!! THAT'S CRAZY !!PEOPLE REPENT AND ASK THE LORD IN TO YOUR LIFE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

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    Devon Taylor

    Please china PLEASE STAND UP AGAINST THIS i want to see you in the millions fighting against an authoritarian government stop being cowards, stop being slaves, stop being tools to the system. Do something about it instead of accepting this is a point of life Almost tired of seeing this stuff honestly we literally has a chance to fight the new world order and fight just like our founding fathers did in the united states did many hundred years ago to fight for our freedom to fight for the constitutional rights. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Guilty until proven innocent case all over again. If ya truly want to follow a righteous path you would fight against this die for your freedom then to sign a bargain with the devil.

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    Ernest Weber

    That is Orwellian. This also looks rather dystopian. Why? Well, it is not just the surveillance, which is bad enough, but the scoring can be gamed and adjusted to manipulate the masses more directly than before. Plus, you it has a potential to create more and more pariahs, (untouchables) and a digital caste structure as well.

    What happens to the persona non grata's this is going to create? Do they get "reeducated" in rehabilitation facilities or sent to work camps or abandoned by society, or worse?

    Constant surveillance of people in various scenarios has been shown to have very negative impacts for obvious reasons. This is not good for people in a number of ways.

    Of course, then there is hacking.

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    Sniperfox 2021

    This is really bad even if it starts with good intentions, no longer to disapprove the government, no travel if you have bad score, which in the future may mean no good jobs if they pass more regulations. I see it as modern day slavery and is better to revolt against this, no government should have this much power.

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    yan chen

    #fake news. This is the type of video Youtube should clean up.
    – The report completely confused China's social credit system with Alibaba's commercial Sesame credit score.
    – The central bank-backed social credit system only collects information from banking system and financial institutions, and only debtors that fail to repay loans are labeled "discredited" and are punished, usually banned from luxury consumption (flight, railway) until they repay the debt.
    – The cited jaywalker being publicly shamed is a case experimented by a local authority, which received much criticism and scrapped afterwards.
    I'd revise foreign media houses to double check their facts and not fabricate something just to attract eyeballs.

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    chootybeeks

    Wow, I simply can not imagine living under that much oppression and distrust. Your own neighbor getting paid to spy on you. It's sort of unreal to think that this is real.

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