What everyday citizens can do to claim power on the internet | Fadi Chehadé and Bryn Freedman

What everyday citizens can do to claim power on the internet | Fadi Chehadé and Bryn Freedman


Bryn Freedman: So you said
that in the 20th century, global power was in the hands
of government. At the beginning of this digital century, it really moved to corporations and that in the future,
it would move to individuals. And I’ve interviewed a lot of people, and they say you’re wrong, and they are betting on the companies. So why are you right, and why are individuals going to win out? Fadi Chehadé: Because companies
cater to individuals, and we as the citizenry need to start understanding
that we have a big role in shaping how the world
will be governed, moving forward. Yes, indeed, the tug of war right now
is between governments, who lost much of their power to companies because the internet is not built
around the nation-state system around which governments have power. The internet is transnational. It’s not international,
and it’s not national, and therefore the companies
became very powerful. They shape our economy. They shape our society. Governments don’t know what to do. Right now, they’re reacting. And I fear that if we do not,
as the citizenry — which are, in my opinion,
the most important leg of that stool — don’t take our role, then you are right. The detractors, or the people telling you
that businesses will prevail, are right. It will happen. BF: So are you saying that individuals
will force businesses or business will be forced
to be responsive, or is there a fear that they won’t be? FC: I think they will be. Look at two weeks ago, a small company called Skip
winning over Uber and Lyft and everyone to actually get the license
for the San Francisco scooter business. And if you read why did Skip win, because Skip listened
to the people of San Francisco, who were tired of scooters
being thrown everywhere, and actually went to the city and said, “We will deploy the service, but we will respond
to the people’s requirements that we organize ourselves
around a set of rules.” They self-governed their behavior,
and they won the contract over some very powerful companies. BF: So speaking of guidelines
and self-governance, you’ve spent an entire lifetime
creating guidelines and norms for the internet. Do you think those days are over? Who is going to guide,
who is going to control, and who is going to create those norms? FC: The rules that govern
the technology layers of the internet are now well put in place, and I was very busy for a few years
setting those rules around the part of the internet
that makes the internet one network. The domain-name system, the IP numbers, all of that is in place. However, as we get now
into the upper layers of the internet, the issues that affect
me and you every day — privacy, security, etc. — the system to create norms for those
unfortunately is not in place. So we do have an issue. We have a system
of cooperation and governance that really needs to be created right now so that companies, governments
and the citizenry can agree how this new digital world
is going to advance. BF: So what gives
a digital company any incentive? Let’s say — Facebook comes to mind — they would say they have
their users’ best interests at heart, but I think a lot of people
would disagree with that. FC: It’s been very difficult to watch
how tech companies have reacted to the citizenry’s response
to their technologies. And some of them, two or three years ago,
basically dismissed it. The word that I heard in many board rooms
is, “We’re just a technology platform. It’s not my issue
if my technology platform causes families
to go kill their girls in Pakistan. It’s not my issue. It’s their problem. I just have a technology platform.” Now, I think we are now entering a stage where companies are starting to realize
this is no longer sustainable, and they’re starting to see the pushback that’s coming
from people, users, citizens, but also governments
that are starting to say, “This cannot be.” So I think there is a maturity
that is starting to set, especially in that Silicon Valley area, where people are beginning to say,
“We have a role.” So when I speak to these leaders, I say, “Look, you could be the CEO,
a very successful CEO of a company, but you could also be a steward.” And that’s the key word. “You could be a steward
of the power you have to shape the lives and the economies
of billions of people. Which one do you want to be?” And the answer is,
it’s not one or the other. This is what we are missing right now. So when an adult like Brad Smith,
the president of Microsoft, said a few months ago, “We need a new set of Geneva Conventions to manage the security
of the digital space,” many of the senior leaders
in Silicon Valley actually spoke against his words. “What do you mean, Geneva Convention? We don’t need any Geneva Conventions.
We self-regulate.” But that mood is changing, and I’m starting to see many leaders say, “Help us out.” But here lies the conundrum. Who is going to help those leaders
do the right thing? BF: So who is going to help them? Because I’d love
to interview you for an hour, but give me your biggest fear
and your best hope for how this is going to work out. FC: My biggest hope
is that we will become each stewards of this new digital world. That’s my biggest hope, because I do think, often,
we want to put the blame on others. “Oh, it’s these CEOs.
They’re behaving this way.” “These governments are not doing enough.” But how about us? How is each of us actually taking
the responsibility to be a steward of the digital space we live in? And one of the things I’ve been pushing
on university presidents is we need every engineering and science
and computer science student who is about to write
the next line of code or design the next IoT device to actually have in them
a sense of responsibility and stewardship towards what they’re building. So I suggested we create a new oath, like the Hippocratic Oath, so that every student
entering an engineering program takes a technocratic oath or a wisdom oath or some oath of commitment
to the rest of us. That’s my best hope, that we all rise. Because governments and businesses
will fight over this power game, but where are we? And unless we play into that power table, I think we’ll end up in a bad place. My biggest fear? My biggest fear,
to be very tactical today, what is keeping me up at night is the current war between
the West, the liberal world, and China, in the area of artificial intelligence. There is a real war going on, and for those of us who have lived
through the nuclear nonproliferation age and saw how people agreed to take some very dangerous
things off the table, well, the Carnegie Endowment
just finished a study. They talked to every country
that made nuclear weapons and asked them, “Which digital ‘weapon’
would you take off the table against somebody else’s
schools or hospitals?” And the answer — from every nuclear power —
to this question was, nothing. That’s what I’m worried about … The weaponization of the digital space, and the race to get there. BF: Well, it sounds like
you’ve got a lot of work to do, and so do the rest of us. Fadi, thank you so much.
I really appreciate it. FC: Thank you. (Applause)

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    William Jean

    Isaiah 65: 17 "See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind."

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    spiritfirewalker1

    The liberals are going to wind up destroying the world. I resent the fact of how they track you're every move unless you pay for secure browsing.

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    Soletestament

    Yea it's going to take more than a few agreements to fix this. You want power… you cut out the middleman. There's plenty of open source programs and projects out there in development specifically to decentralize the various uses of the internet such that no single company or individual is in ownership of a platform. But it takes work, research and a willingness to sacrifice the extended functionality of closed source software to go that route. Three things most people aren't willing to expend any effort to do. It's just much easier for them to use whatever is already installed on their desktop/phone/tablet. Shoot if game reviewers can't even be bothered to properly explore the games they're paid to review how can we expect the average individual to learn to use PGP, Bitcoin or a new operating system? There's just too much sociology involved to expect anything other than a bad outcome at this point.

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    DURMUŞ BAYSAL

    I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. (Maya Angeleo)

    FELLOW DWELLERS OF THE EARTH;
    My name is Eight Billion,
    I contain an angel and a devil struggling inside,
    The face I dress varies to survive,
    Always hungry for power, never enough to content,
    I look for “inner peace” whilst consumed by grudge,
    For sons, for daughters, for the self, please be advised, there long existed the new code, aside,
    Let’s consider having an appointment with the best stylist for a change,
    Experience, how exceptionally would you look better reflecting the best,
    Thus, if you manage to change yourself, repenting for good,
    The place called Earth might turn into Heaven, I assure,
    It is me, it is you, it is us will power to CHANGE.

    "Indeed, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. (The Noble Qur'an. Surah An Nahl. Verse:90)"

    Listen to the voice of the Noble Quran.
    Maybe your life will be changed If God allows.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVY8pwx9B74
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omh4oG8T_Fw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXWTxB6oS6I

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    Eli Nope

    The idea that powerful corporations and government compete is a myth. Governments work for corporations. Don't believe me? Check your local copyright LAWS.

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    chocomalk

    He's a moron, the corporations have already won…been a while now…go ahead an tell Google how much power you have lmao…the power to "opt out",,,not really.

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    Meta

    Here's the only thing you gotta know about how to get and keep power in your communities.
    STOP FALLING INTO TRAPS THAT CREATE DIVISION AMONGST YOUR PEERS

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    puluq emil

    I am now really worried, i gave my ID number, and fingerprint and facial ID and all bankcard accounts to business companies… that was so so dangerous!!!!

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    Real Cake

    I don't understand what he proposing and even what he talking about. What do you mean, we need to take responsibility? Responsibility for what? What do you mean by responsibility? So vague…

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    moto2kx2

    LMAO!
    Like doctors did and do not know they are in control by the large corporations as to the methods of medicine that go contrary to their "Hippocratic oath". Let alone all the prescriptions they wrote for dugs that kill them and make them addicts. The only internet that will be for the people is one BY THE PEOPLE. Like Bitcoin is.

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    Zhu Bajie

    China won't agree to any universal norms. The Beijing government despises the universal is increasing nationalistic every day.

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    Ragnheidur Olafsdottir

    First he blamed Ceos then he blames universities but men in his opinion, from his world are victim and women are just even more victim. Western world is fine, eastern world is not a victim. And if a father likes killing his babies and using violence on his family he is responsible.

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    Michael Harig Jr

    Thank you for saying what I have been thinking. We need a general & universal etiquette. No two people are alike but we all have things in common that are universal, so let's use those to find actions everyone is capable of & implement them into today's society. Freedom is nice but can also be terrible… let's find ideas that make sense & hurt no one instead of using things that benefit a few but also hurt others.

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    iEuno1

    As for the weaponization or weaponizing of the digital space, it's more the other way around.
    It's more the other way around, because the digital space is made and designed from weapon systems.
    The non-proliferation of nuclear weapon done by parties with no rights to use those is not very hard to figure out.

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    Imad Daou

    Solution: as System and Network Engineer, I believe technology must serve humanity and not the way around. In order to hit the steward theory that Fadi spoke about, we need to favor humanity over PROFIT! Make profit second in the list and not first.

    And here comes the solution, let the people govern in either the state and corporation level, right now we have state officials represent their donors or who bribe them to pass their laws using lobbying.

    Human nature as social community will never ever screw each other, what screw humanity and everything around them are self interest entity people forming corporations driven by brutal capitalism to make profit and not to serve humanity and nature.

    How the heck people will have state officials represent them and not representing donors? The simplest answer is have democratic workplace. As long we had Master and slave, Lord and servant, Employer and Employee, we will never ever have state officials represent the people, why? The answer again is self interest of those money masters and the CEO of corporations whom they lobby 24/7 to keep buying the state officials through what is called donating, bribing the true word.

    So, Democracy at work by forming workers co-op corporations owned by people and not by narrow self interest stock exchange companies, will for sure solve the root cause of the problem, hence we won’t have corporations driven by profit and fighting for it, we will have corporations owned by group of people represent their social community to serve humanity first and make profit next, hence such corporations owned by the people to the people, can’t be sold or bought by thieves and mercenaries who control our life using the most dangerous tool ever created called Stock Exchange.

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    Naeem UlFateh

    But he didn't talk, ''how citizen can do claim power'' beside some executive. Same thing behind companies are individual and individual who governs…….

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    Global Digital Direct Subsidiarity Democracy

    a new geneva convention? the us constantly violated that anyway. GLOBAL DIRECT DEMOCRACY OR WE WILL DIE! Nation states are the layer beneath like states are to nation states! We must only push for this untill everyone agrees and stands up for it! Let´s do it!

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    Keith Klassen

    So few of us have the time, patience, or even the education to take any small part of this responsibility. The companies we're talking about are constantly amassing more and more data on how to influence us, and have no interest in sharing it. And the same with money. They have massive amounts of power, and the only way we can organize well enough to keep them in check is through government. Government, ridiculous as it is in so many ways, is the only thing that can push back the imbalance of power. And even government is becoming weaker against the influence of tech, as Facebook's collusion with Russia attests.

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    Legitness

    Not understandyng sarcasm and irony or emotions trough the internet is a problem. I think we can consider Youtube an art platform, Art just shouldn't be controlled. Thank you.

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    Nivekoman O

    I have subscribed to TED but YouTube doesn't show me new content in my feed. Has this happened to anyone? Pls like and comment.

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    TheMagicJIZZ

    Corporations won't take over because they already did just think of the east Indies trading company!? They literally bought and took over the Indian continent just imagine Amazon taking over Mexico? Like a professional standing army? We'll have you ever seen a movie invade India? Because it didn't happen the UK nationalised the company after some private soldiers used bacon fat and cow meat on soldiers who were Muslim and Hindu because they were the MAJORITY of the British Indian army so that caused a riot, embarrassed the UK government so end of a global corporate power because of that? So the idea corporations take over the world is just science fiction nonsense. Everything decays and dies.

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    Michael Harig Jr

    Big business vs. Humanity:
    Big business you help yourself to get ahead of others.
    Humanity you help others catch up with you.
    Big business, take what you can when you can.
    Humanity, take what you need, & leave the rest for others.
    Big business spend time & energy to buy needs for yourself.
    Humanity, work together to have time & energy.
    Big business, dog eat dog competition.
    Humanity, equal cooperation.
    Big business, spend time away from family to support family.
    Humanity spend time with family, to support family.
    Big business, buy wants to your hearts desire.
    Humanity, content living within their needs.
    Big business, lie to avoid problems.
    Humanity, avoid problems by telling the whole truth.

    Dog eat dog, survival of the richest, social creatures, animal instincts… money is killing humanity.

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    Xeno Phon

    Learn to Ddos and botnet and bring down any server that practices immoral business practices and or tries to profiteer / exploit you. The free market way!

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    Eastern Turki

    Very inspiring idea, thank you for the video and hello from East Turkistan 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋😊😊😊😊 many many love 💙 💜 💙 💜 💙 💜

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    svenm sandity

    i can mass produce everything power is the only thing we need kilopower is the answer there called pods tower farms to mass production send this machine to a town mass produce government will regulate you will put in a request it will be sent based on a peer review no weapons 3d printers are in public places families friends loved ones can finally live in a community of dorms and do business in labs science being innovated by peer reviews and im sorry we can better optimize ourselves so peer reviews is what dictates actions and a system of abundance we can do this all right now and simplify it all based on machines and computers and regulations based on a government power this sense of owning land ends we share the land in a higher archy of memes and progression see people right know have billions if not trillions of projects on mind they wish to create and invent and add to this system of blue prints that will become regulated as in our system of copyrights we dont need to buy anything from other countries and if they dont want to respect these trading conditions we dont trade with them simple that means they tech they stole isnt entering our economies but we can steal there tech as well giving people in our economy a closed of loophole to get there hands on rare tech

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