♪ Oh say can you see ♪ ♪ By the dawn’s early light ♪ ♪ What so proudly we hailed ♪ – I actually don’t know any words. (playful music) – Hello. – My name’s Collin, and
I’m a student at UW. – My name is Ian Perganin, and I am an immigration lawyer. – I think, I think I’m supposed to be guessing who’s a US citizen. – Oh my god. Like, legally? – That’s gonna be interesting. – I was not. I’m from Kenya. – I am a US citizen. – I feel like as an immigration lawyer, I should have a good feel of who’s a citizen and who’s not, since I deal with it all the time. – Y’all are so pretty. – Hi, what’s your favorite food? – My favorite food’s sushi. – I guess that doesn’t
mean anything, right? (laughing) – Do you speak any other languages? – I speak French and I speak Amharic. – What country is that language from? – Which one?
– The second one. – Amharic?
– Yeah. – That’s from Ethiopia. – Ethiopia. – Are you Habesha?
– Yeah. – I know my Habeshas. Okay, okay, okay. Are you adopted? – No. – No, okay, I just know a lot of people who are adopted. – What year was the US
constitution written? – 1872? – That’s a good guess,
that’s a good guess. I won’t say the answer so. (laughing) – Yeah, I think so, I think you are a U.S. citizen. – I’m gonna say no, she’s not a citizen. – But you’re a citizen, though. – I am. – What makes you think I’m not? – ‘Cause I know the whole citizenship process is
pretty long and hard. Maybe you’re like in the
process, I don’t know. – I’m gonna guess maybe
you were born in Ethiopia, came as refugees, probably
got your green card, and then your parents naturalized, and you became a citizen through them. – Okay. – Hi, I’m Collin. – Calum. – Calum? – Calum, like column with an M and an A. – What country is your accent from? – England. – England, okay, that
was gonna be my guess. – You dress very European. (laughing) – These are all American
companies, there’s Levis, and. – But there’s a way to style it – Okay. – And a way where it seems more European. – Okay. – Okay, give us your.
– This is my real. – American English accent – Oh you want.
– Yeah, the American. – Well, I can only do a southern accent. (laughing) – I’d like more coleslaw with that. – I’d like more coleslaw. (laughing) – Can you throw this in the garbage bin. – Can you throw this in the garbage bin? – I think he’s not a U.S. citizen. – Because of the British accent, I’m gonna say he’s not. – I’m gonna say he’s not a citizen. Cool, hey thanks a lot man. Yeah, yeah.
(laughing) – What is your favorite food? – Tacos, daily. – Tacos daily? – How was your background, were your parents like strict? – Yeah, I had to check
in with them constantly when I was younger. – Mmm, that says a lot, you know how immigrant parents are. (laughing) – What did you do for the fourth of July? Did you watch a fireworks display? – No. – Can you recite the pledge of allegiance? – Yeah. I stand allegiance, wait. – I pledge allegiance. – Oh, pledge allegiance. – I’m gonna say no. These are a lot of no’s, this cannot be good. – What is the supreme rule of the land? – The constitution. – Imma say she’s a U.S. citizen. That question is, maybe
if you’ve taken the test, the civics test, that’s one
of the questions on there. So, that’s what I’m gonna guess. – Come on over, I’m Fatima.
– Paul. – What do you do for a living? – I’m just an engineer. – Have you been in the
Seattle area for long? – Yes, since ’87. – What is your favorite food? – Big meat eater. Vegetable, not so much, but yeah. – That’s very American, very American. – How many amendments to
the constitution are there? – I think there’s 10,
I think, I’m not sure. – Actually it’s 27. – Oh, okay. – Yeah.
(laughing) You’re not a citizen. Just, I think you haven’t
taken the test yet. That’s gonna be my guess. – I’d say you are a U.S citizen. You’re dressed very. – Old? – Yeah, older, but also very, like, my dad dresses like that. (laughing) – Do you speak any other language? (speaking in foreign language) – Oh, okay. (speaking in a foreign language) – What is the official
language of the United States? – I’m gonna guess it’s English. I mean, wait, am I wrong? – Well there is really
no official language. Who is the current Supreme
Court Chief Justice? I’m gonna say you’re a citizen. – Can I ask why? – Why do you think that? – Because if you’re educated
in the United States and you’ve probably grew up here, a lot of that you won’t know. – Next up, oh, hmmm. (noises) (laughing) – I’d say off of your vibe, you’re not a U.S. citizen. – What’s the vibe that I’m giving off that I’m not a U.S. citizen? – You just seem foreign. – Name one war that the United States fought in the 1800’s. – Civil War? – Unsure of your answer,
is that your final answer? – Civil War. – What is your typical sports Super Bowl kind of day look? – I don’t like football. – No, you’re not a citizen. – Imma go with you’re not a citizen. You probably are here to
throw me off, it seems so. (laughing) So that’s why I’m just
gonna guess with that. – I’m Collin. – Laura, nice to meet you. – Nice to meet you. Your accent sounds, like not an American accent. (scoffs) But that, I’m sorry. – It’s okay.
– Yeah. (laughing) – Last name? (speaking in a foreign language) Okay, see, I would repeat that, but. – I guess, try to speak like I do, like. – I guess, try to speak like I do. (snapping)
(laughing) – Have you been in this
area for very long? – 18 years. – 18 years.
– Yes. – Getting your citizenship doesn’t take more than 18 years, usually. Yeah, I think you are a citizen. – You are not a U.S. citizen. (laughing) – What do you do, are you, school, work? – I work at a manufacturing plant. – Do you have family
here in the states, then? – Yeah. – Is all of your family members here? – Dad, Mom. – What is your favorite beer? – A Madepo. – Madelo. (laughing) – She’s like, let me tell you. – Who was the third U.S. president? – What? – Who was the second U.S. president? – Don’t even. – How about this, what month do we vote for president? That’s an easier one. – Is it September, October? – November. – I’d say, by the way he’s dressed, and his poor knowledge of U.S. history, that he is a U.S. citizen. (laughing) – Imma say that you’re a U.S. citizen. – Oh yeah, a citizen, he is a citizen. (dramatic music) – Oh, lord. – Oh wow.
(screams) – Okay I got you right. – That’s pretty good,
I think that’s passing. – I got most of you guys wrong. – Okay, this is pretty good. Out of, how many people, eight people, I expected to get all of them right. Okay, okay, okay. – Hi.
– Hey. – Did I get you right? – You got me wrong. I’m not a citizen. – Okay. – So you were born in Ethiopia, right? – I was born in Ethiopia,
I’m not a refugee. – [Man] Okay. – I came with the diversity visa. – I totally forgot about
the diversity lottery. – Yeah. – I’m sorry. – Are you looking into
becoming a U.S. citizen? – I think I’ll spend most
of my life in Ethiopia, I’d rather just stay with
my Ethiopian citizenship, since it doesn’t allow dual citizenship. – [Fatima] Oh, it doesn’t? – No. – So, oh, okay, that makes sense. – So I don’t know if you’ve heard about the current administration,
they want to do away with the diversity lottery. – Yeah. – How do you feel about that? – I mean, I think it’s
something that people here don’t know, they think immigrants are just coming, like the government
has been going there, and getting people to come here, that’s one misconception, I don’t know if it’s the right thing
or wrong thing to do. This country needs to decide for itself. – Cool, thank you. – You’re welcome. – You tricked me. Was that accent. – No it’s real. – Okay, it’s a real accent. – So you are a citizen, I got that wrong. – Yeah. – You were not born in the U.S. then? – No, correct.
– Okay. – I was born in the U.K. – In the U.K. – To an American mother. – So you have dual citizenship. – Yes. – I don’t get it, I’m confused. – My mom was able to pass
on to me and my sister. – Oh, okay. – And then, we could pass
it on to any kids we had. – Oh really. – It’s nice to have. – Did the election make
you want to just, like. – Oh of course, yeah.
– Hop off and just. – I’m out soon, I’m thinking about it. – You and me both. – Right? – Did I get you right? – Yes. – I said you were a citizen, right? – Yeah, U.S. citizen. – Okay, now were you born here, though? – Yes. – But your family is originally from? – From Mexico and Guatemala.
– Mexico and Guatemala. That’s right.
– And that’s my sister. – That is your sister, okay. – Yeah. – Wow, I did not even
put two and two together. – Oh my god, how did I not catch that? Okay actually, can I get them to stand next to each other, so I can? – Oh lord, I can’t believe I missed it. – Are your parents U.S. citizens? – No, I’m the only one who holds the citizenship in our family. – That’s so interesting. – A mixed status family,
that’s what we call it. – Given the current climate, and stuff, how does that make you
feel about the future for you and your family? – Scared, you know, ’cause I
don’t know what’s gonna happen, but at the same time, it makes me want to fight more, be resistant. – Sure. – But you can travel inside the U.S. – I, we can, yeah, travel, but then again, the fear of deportation, like airports, even Greyhound, you just have that fear that you’re gonna get stopped and checked. – And they can just, like. – Grab you and detain you, and we have a. If you’re here in Washington, they’ll take you to the
detention center in Takoma. – Wow.
– Yeah, we have one here, so. – Where are you from? – I was born in Cambodia. – You were born in Cam, oh, okay. – Yes. My mom came as a refugee and she applied for citizenship and for the whole thing and once she qualified,
she passed the test, and I was part of that. – Got it, so you didn’t
even have to take the test. – Well, I did not have to take the test, but I was underage yet.
– Right, yeah. – Was there like a war or something? – Yeah, the Khmer Rouge war,
where half the people died. – Half? – The whole thing about the killing field and all the stuff, yeah,
it’s a typical component in the story back in the 70’s. – No way, wow, that’s amazing. Oh my god, that was so great, great to meet you, thank you, wow. – I said you were a citizen. – Yeah.
– But you’re not. – No, I’m a DACA recipient. – You’re a DACA.
– DACA. – Do you know what that is? – Yeah, it’s a deport, no, undocu. – Deferred. – Deffered Action Children. – Childhood Arrival. – Arrivals.
– Yeah. – How long have you been in the U.S. – 13 now. – Wow, and you’ve been mostly
in Florida, during the. – Yeah. – DACA as you know, it’s not
technically legal status, it’s just a decision by
the government to not deport you, right.
– Yeah. – So it’s always something that can be taken away, as well, in fact, the Trump administration has
already tried to stop it. – Yeah. – The sisters that tricked
me, so this is the other one. So you don’t have your citizenship at all? – No.
– Wow, is it just. – I just have DACA, too. – DACA, wow, so is it
during the time where your family went back? – Yeah ’cause I was in my mom’s womb. – Womb, yeah, and then
you were born there. – How does that feel,
to have a sister who’s sort of, you know, she’s unrestricted. She can go wherever she wants, she has no fear of being deported? – Like honestly this is
the only thing I know, and it’s just frustrating ’cause people. It’s only a piece of paper
the makes you a U.S. citizen, which is really dumb. – Right, right. – Hello! So you’ve said you’ve
been here for 18 years? – Yes, correct.
– Wow, from where? – From Thailand. – From Thailand, ay. – Yes. – Do you have dual citizenship? – Yes I do. I got my green card first, – Okay. – Followed by my mom. – Okay. – And then I become citizen
after that five years. – So you actually did take the test. – I did. – If you were to choose one or the other? – For me, I would choose
American citizenship. For my gender information,
in Thailand, I’m a male. – Wow.
– In America, I’m a female. So it’s more easy for me to living life. – Hi, did I get you right? – Oh, yeah. – Oh yes!
(laughing) – You could tell by the knowledge. – Yeah, the knowledge. – It’s all right here.
– The U.S. history. – From your standpoint, being born here and everything like that,
what message do you have to people who come in and
have to go through it, yeah. – Keep pursuing your dream, you know? – Yeah. – It’s still gonna be hard, coming from a different background,
because people are really closed minded, so. – Exactly, true, true. – Do you see the U.S. as
a nation of immigrants? – Oh, yeah, if you go back to your roots, you know, you’re an immigrant too, so you can’t really
judge other immigrants on how they got here or why they’re here. – Awesome, thank you, thank you so much. – Thank you. (drumming) – I learned that I needed to put away any pre-conceived notions I had of people. – We do have a stereotype
for what an American needs to be, or what
they need to look like. – I don’t know, when it comes down to it, they’re just people, and
everyone wants the same thing, to succeed, and happiness, and yeah. It’s so sad, I’m sorry. (crying) (laughing) (clapping) – [Man] Thank you so much. (group talking)